Eventually we would use it in future products requiring customer upgrades. At present it's a return to base upgrade.... do you use the MFM in your app?
I would like to get the *6K22 working first!
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Re: Customers Performing Own Upgrades. How Hard Can It Be?
Eventually we would use it in future products requiring customer upgrades. At present it's a return to base upgrade.... do you use the MFM in your app?
I would like to get the *6K22 working first!
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Re: Customers Performing Own Upgrades. How Hard Can It Be?
For a tipical individual that wants to upgrade the programming in their PIC, I don't think the Microchip Bootloader program would be that complicated for him. If you create a good tutorial with pictures on how to use the Microchip Bootloader, I think that that's the way to go.
"No one is completely worthless. They can always serve as a bad example."
Anonymous
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Re: Customers Performing Own Upgrades. How Hard Can It Be?
@rsocor01 I suspect that the target user wouldn't know a PIC from a pick.
@timmers There are many PIC devices similar to *6K22 with USB builtin but I suspect you have already decided against porting. In which case CDC must look very attractive but I would suggest falsely so. Just a couple of ways that you can have HID, a cheap PIC with USB as a buffer or maybe MCP2210. BTW you do realize that USB bootloader is purely software.
Anyways, I leave you with this thought - CDC bad, HID good.
George
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Re: Customers Performing Own Upgrades. How Hard Can It Be?
Perhaps I'm missing something. :?
Can you not supply or advise your customers to buy a cheap pic programmer and simply send them hex files.
The hex files could be zipped and password protected if required on an individual customer basis.
http://www.piccircuit.com/shop/pic-p...rogrammer.html
That's what I do. Same pic programmer covers all of my projects/products.
Even some very elderly punters have been able to cope with using pickit2 and the programmer.
Perhaps it's possible to use pickit 2 in a command line mode with file name in the script.
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Re: Customers Performing Own Upgrades. How Hard Can It Be?
Yes you are. He's trying to find a method for a non-technical person to upgrade a "black box", to repeat myself - I suspect that the target user wouldn't know a PIC from a pick.
George
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Re: Customers Performing Own Upgrades. How Hard Can It Be?
MikroE have nice little hid bootloader.
http://www.mikroe.com/img/developmen...der_window.jpg
It would be nice to have open source bootloader like that in PBP.
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Re: Customers Performing Own Upgrades. How Hard Can It Be?
Hmm, if you send a hex file to your customer, how hard is to copy the circuit and use the hex on a new project, without you knowing it?
I prefer to keep my hex files really secret and away from any customer. Except if they have paid for it, and they own it.
Ioannis
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