Pic16 vs Pic18 vs AVR, Picbasic Vs Proteus Vs ASM Vs Hitech C Vs MPlabs c18

[toalan]

Umm after re-reading my post I think I came across as "dissing" PICBASIC and its like. Picbasic really is a decent language, I am so comfortable coding in Picbasic and in all truthfullness with a bit more work picbasic would be "all that and a bag of chips". A much more detailed manual would be nice, the manual is something like 300 pages, it sound like alot but the font and the spacing is huge. If the authors put alot more detail in there then that would be fantastic. How bout a book mark tab in the PDF manual? Better support for hardware is another thing that is required, for example most PWM hardware on PICs support 10 bit but PICbasic only offers 8 bit, or how bout having a real interrupt routine. Maybe getting rid of some routines that are a bit odd, the RC time thing was odd, and what is the real difference between SERIN and SERIN 2?

[Acetronics2]

Hi, Toalan

I've found Mel very very kind in her answer ...

you just have to know what you really want ... should be difficult !!!

... for your charge pump: this is simply called a capacitor ...

Alain

[OXIMBIT]

Whats this "Proteus" compiler? I know they offer support for a number of compilers including AVR's and VSM's but I have never seen there compiler.

Do you have a URL?

[mister_e]

Whats this "Proteus" compiler? I know they offer support for a number of compilers including AVR's and VSM's but I have never seen there compiler.

Do you have a URL?

As i know, Proteus is not a compiler but a simulator. Voted to be one of the best on the market... as i heard....

here's the link http://www.labcenter.co.uk/

[toalan]

Proteus is a compiler as well, they have a whole package that includes compiler. simulator and Spice modelling, they might even have a PCB layout program in there as well.

[toalan]

MPLABS IDE has a very good simulator as well and it is free. The best simulator I have used so far is PICsimulator, but it does not have PWM support and has support for only a limited number of PICs.

[OXIMBIT]

toalan

I think you are thinking about Proton which is by Crownhill and comes with Proteus as well as 6 VSM boards to sim your code on.

I have used Proteus for both PCB design and Siming and IMHO there is nothing that comes within a mile of it. You can sim up to I think 5 pic's all running basic code, single stepping, and interacting to each other.

[Luciano]

Proteus VSM is not a compiler.

http://www.labcenter.co.uk/

List of the supported third party compilers:
http://www.labcenter.co.uk/index.htm.../compilers.htm

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Proton Development Suite

http://www.picbasic.org/proton_development_suite.php
http://www.labcenter.co.uk/index.htm.../crownhill.htm

If you buy the Proton Development Suite you get:

The full version of the Crownhill Associates Proton+ Compiler
and a limited version of the Labcenter Proteus VSM.

The Proton version of Proteus is included in the price of the Development Suite, however,
if you want to change the design of the Virtual Hardware Boards or design your own circuit
for a project, you will need to purchase a licence for the full Proteus VSM software.

Six Virtual Hardware Boards for simulation are included in the
Proton Development Suite:

12F675 PICmicro® (8-pin 14bit core)
16F628A PICmicro® (18-pin 14bit core)
16F877 PICmicro® (40-pin 14bit core) with Alphanumeric LCD
16F877 PICmicro® (40-pin 14bit core) with Graphic LCD
18F452 PICmicro® (40-pin 16bit core) with Alphanumeric LCD
18F452 PICmicro® (40-pin 16bit core) with Graphic LCD

Prices for the full Proteus VSM software:

Commercial price list:
http://www.labcenter.co.uk/index.htm...ng/cprices.htm

VSM Educational price list:
http://www.labcenter.co.uk/index.htm...eprices_uk.htm

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Complete and official info here:

http://www.labcenter.co.uk/
http://www.picbasic.org/index.php


Luciano

[toalan]

Hi, Toalan

I've found Mel very very kind in her answer ...

you just have to know what you really want ... should be difficult !!!

... for your charge pump: this is simply called a capacitor ...

Alain

Capacitor wont' work in my case, i already considered it.