i havent tried it yet but i think you are correct. yes dwayne i im doing "custom" lcd routines, great memory my man.

thats why i cant use the lcdout function.

what manual? i have the hd44780 commands sheet, i was having trouble interprting what the command actualy did, i also went to like 5 different webpages i found listed through out this forum to try and find a laymans description of what setting the dd reisters and stuff actually does.

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconVall...d/commands.htm
http://home.iae.nl/users/pouweha/lcd/lcd.shtml
http://www.perfectlcd.com/FAQ_LCD_te...ter_module.htm

so dont get so mad at people Ace.