Hello Edward,

Edward>>i havent tried it yet but i think you are correct. yes dwayne i im doing "custom" lcd routines, great memory my man.

thats why i cant use the lcdout function.

what manual? i have the hd44780 commands sheet, i was having trouble interprting what the command actualy did, i also went to like 5 different webpages i found listed through out this forum to try and find a laymans description of what setting the dd reisters and stuff actually does<<

I understand why it can be very confusing... Since you are not using the LCDout, you have no "Manual" to go by... Thus, it CAN be very confusing. But!!! the LCD commands (which you probably didn't know) are almost exactly like the LCDout commands in the PBP manual that Melabs puts out. The only thing that will be different, is if you write to the interal memory, or something out of the ordinary. But simple LCDout commands will work without the LCDout... just make sure you have the Data/Command switch in the right place.... Most of the time it is in Data mode... So that you will write DATA out to your LCD for display. The only time it is in Command mode would be switching LCD lines, or Clearing the LCD display with a Dec 1. (Dec 13 will turn on and clear your display). I also understand on the interpreting the commands!...If you want, I have a site someplace that does a great job of telling all the commands of the LCD...in Command mode. I will look it up, if you would like me to, and give you the URL.

Dwayne (congradulations on your project.)