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    Default DMX'ing

    John, thank you so much for pointing me in the right direction!

    I'm using a 16F877 at 20MHz, so the UART RX is pin 26, aka RC7. I'm using a 75176 also. I have no experience using the UART at all. Regarding your use of PULSIN, can I just do something like this?

    loop:
    PULSIN portC.7,1,pulse_word 'if portC.7 is set up at the UART input,
    'will PULSIN work? Is 1 the correct polarity?
    IF pulse_word<40 then loop '40 = 80uS with a 20MHz osc

    WHILE RCIF = 0
    HSERIN [dmx_val] 'throw away first value at it is the start code

    channel_loop:
    HSERIN [dmx_val] 'get channel 1 value
    count0 = count0 + 1
    if count0 = target_channel then exit
    goto channel_loop

    Since you've already done this, have you found any issues with UART overflow and needed to toggle that CREN bit? Also, I've read elsewhere that the data is in 8N2 value-- does that require any additional code to handle? I'm also wondering if having the UART enabled causes issues with then using PULSIN on the UART RX pin, PortC.7, and is the PULSIN polarity a 1 or a 0 for the break signal following the 75176?

    Thanks so much for your help so far!

    --Alan

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    Default Here there be Dragons

    >>overflow and needed to toggle that CREN bit? Also, I've read elsewhere that the data is in 8N2 value-- does that require any additional code to handle?

    Ooops. So what I usually do is check for my break signal with the USART turned completely off. Then, when the break is detected, I turn on the USART and read RCIF twice, just to make sure it's totally empty.

    Then, the next value that comes through is my start code.

    Don't just throw it away, though! The official spec (well worth the $30 paid to the USITT) talks about how dimmer data has a zero start code, but not everything needs to. It's totally OK for a manufacturer to send 'proprietary' data after a non-zero code. So if you're just blindly accepting everything after the first byte as valid, you may get burned down the road.

    Having said that, I've 'scoped the output of a GrandMA, a few different Hogs, a dozen or so ETC consoles, and some cheap throwaway DJ gear and never *not* found a zero start code...

    With one exception. It made me so mad I vowed never to buy or use that particular company's equipment again. I'd programmed *my* receiving equipment to flash an error LED if the data stream had a non-zero code for some reason.... Grrrrrrr.

    As an aside, if you tell your lighting controller to create a start code of, say, '10', only the 'proprietary' dimmers you've designed will work with that particular console. The marketing folks love that, because it fakes a case for using equipment only from one company.

    >>I'm also wondering if having the UART enabled causes issues with then using PULSIN on the UART RX pin, PortC.7, and is the PULSIN polarity a 1 or a 0 for the break signal following the 75176?

    After you've run the signal through the level shifter chip, you should see that the data line idles high. So you're watching for an active-low pulse of 80-120 uS.

    And the bit about 8N2 vs 8N1 doesn't really matter, because the stop bits are both high. So 8N2 is just a slightly 'slower' version of 8N1. It makes lots more sense if you can see it on a 'scope.

    So here's a loop in pseudocode:

    1. With the USART off
    2. Loop around until you find a decently long break

    3. If you've found a break, turn the USART on and clear RCREG twice (it's double-buffered, according to the datasheet. So it can receive two bytes without overflowing)
    4. When the RCIF flag is set, you've received a start code. Decide what you want to do with it.
    5. Then start counting and grab the rest of the data you're interested in.
    6. Turn off the USART

    Hope this helps some.

    Seriously, spend the $30 and get a copy of the DMX documentation. There's a lot of valuable design information included in what they'll send you.

    John

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    Hi John--

    Well, I bought the DMX spec... the current version is now $40. I feel that I understand what's going on there well enough to proceed with trying to translate that into PICBasic.

    Problem is, the PICBasic documentation on HSERIN just isn't very complete, and my brain hurts after about 15 minutes of trying to understand the Microchip datasheet... it looks like in PICBasic you enable the receiver by using defines, which don't allow me to turn the port on and off at runtime unless I know what specific register bit I want to change. It looks to me like I turn it on and off by toggling the SPEN bit (RCSTA.7) of the RCSTA register? I don't understand how to clear the RCREG, like you say to do twice... are you saying in your previous post that I don't need to do anything with the CREN bit?

    Using PULSIN I did successfully detect the start break, which I then used to generate a PULSOUT on another pin that I put back into my 'scope to use as a trigger. I can see the data as it should look (compared to the USITT data sheet), so at least that part is working. The code I used is:

    loop:
    pulsin porta.7,0,count0
    if count0 >40 then exit '(look for pulse longer than 80uS)
    goto loop

    exit:
    pulsout portb.0, 200
    goto loop

    Is this similar to what's working for you? (minus the pulsout, of course...)

    Also, it occurs to me that according to the spec, if I take more than 4-8 microsecs to determine the pulse length and turn on the USART, I'll miss the header byte... have you been able to implement your DMX receiver using only PICBasic, or do you have some assembly in there too? Do you set the USART to automatically clear its errors or toggle the RCSTA.4 bit?

    I'm still feeling kind of fried by all this register settings stuff, but I'm happy I can at least detect the break! (Hey, it's a start...)

    Thanks again for your help---

    ---Alan
    Last edited by alanmcf; - 29th June 2005 at 10:02.

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    Default DMX - There be Dragons...

    Let me try and find some code snippetts after breakfast & I'll post them.

    John

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    Hi John--

    It would be great to see some actual code snippets-- that's the best way, I've found, for me to learn anything code-wise.


    By the way, I'm using an NSI Melange DMX board (circa 1993) to generate the DMX I'm viewing, and I also have a microTech hand-held DMX tester/analyzer that I'll use after I get the code working with output from the Melange. Both of these have zero for the start code, thank goodness.

    Thanks again--

    --Alan

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    Default DMX code snippets

    OK - Here are some bits and pieces from code which runs nicely on an 'F88 @ 16 MHz:

    * * * *

    DEFINE OSC 16
    DEFINE HSER_BAUD 250000
    DEFINE HSER_CLROERR 1

    * * * *
    This next routine is called on a gosub from my main housekeeping loop:
    * * * *

    checkdmx:

    counter = 1 'just a dummy variable
    pulsin target,0,counter 'here I'm looking for the break signal

    if counter = 0 then
    idleflag = 1 'either no dmx, or break was too long to count
    return
    endif


    if counter < 40 then checkdmx 'watching for 'break
    'if you get here, an active low pulse was detected, but it was too short.
    'probably just part of the datastream. So go back and look again.

    'otherwise, a valid break was found and it's time to read the start code

    RCREG = dummy 'clear out any garbage which may be in the USART
    RCREG = dummy
    SPBRG = 0
    TXSTA.2 = 0 'brgh = 0
    TXSTA.4 = 0
    RCSTA.7 = 1
    RCSTA.6 = 0 'setting 8 bit receive mode, no parity, etc
    RCSTA.4 = 0 'check the datasheet to see what all these bits do
    RCSTA.4 = 1 'now, the USART is on and ready to receive

    while RCIF = 0:wend 'hover here after break, before start code

    startcode = RCREG 'This is the first byte received after the break

    if startcode <> 0 then 'do your own stuff here on a non-zero code

    aminus = address1 - 1 'address1 is my target address

    for x = 1 to aminus 'set up a loop to count almost to the address
    while RCIF = 0:WEND 'sit here until a byte is received
    dummy = RCREG 'stash the byte somewhere unimportant
    next x

    hserin [newlevel1] 'This is your target channel data

    RCSTA.7 = 0 'turn off the USART

    return

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    Default Thanks!

    Thanks, John, for your help! I will be coding my gizmo in the next few days and those snippets will be very helpful in getting it up and running!

    I'll let you know how it goes...

    Thanks again--

    --Alan

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