problems with I2C.... and ideas why dosent work?

[Archilochus]

Hi snood,
Isn't "LCDOUT" a reserved word in PBP? Don't know if that might cause problems.

Arch

[snood]

Hi snood,
Isn't "LCDOUT" a reserved word in PBP? Don't know if that might cause problems.

Arch

well i have just actually re-written that for the purpose of the forum, i dont currently have access to my one with the problem... LCDOUT is just what i called it here, it's called "screen" on my actual version, either way, it's not the screen i'm having trouble with, thats working fine, it's just not displaying the "correct" information from the RTC.. i just read in another post something about when the DS1307 is brand new you have to do something to it to make it work, can someone explain this to me? as the above code is being run on a fresh 1307.

thankyou

Paul

[NavMicroSystems]

Snood,

if you search the Forum for "DS1307" you'll find a number of examples.
(be honest, you haven't really searched)

Do you have 4k7 Pullup Resistors on SDA and SCL ?

For additional Information see: DataSheet

[snood]

ogg dear i never noticed the 4k7 resistor... how vital is this to have? i connect the resistor to the SDA only according to the datasheet, what does the other end of the resistor connect to? +5v?

and yes ive searched for 1307.

paul

[Archilochus]

Hi Snood,
Ohh... yeah, those pullups are important! Hook them from the SDA and SCL lines to your positive rail that powers the PIC and 1307.

Here's a bit from the data sheet about starting up a 'new' 1307:

"Bit 7 of register 0 [seconds] is the clock halt (CH) bit. When this bit is set to a 1, the oscillator is disabled. When cleared to a 0, the oscillator is enabled."

Since you set 'seconds' to 0, the clock should be enabled, assuming the the I2C write command is working properly.

Arch

[NavMicroSystems]

ogg dear i never noticed the 4k7 resistor...

No pullUp, No Success

what does the other end of the resistor connect to? +5v?

what else could you connect a PulUp to?

...and yes ive searched for 1307.

Well, then everything should be pretty clear.
(if you have taken the time to read through the threads)

[snood]

please..... i didnt come here to be put down. can you explain to me what the purpose of a pullup resistor is and why it is needed in this instance.

Snood

edit:

also... as far as initialising the chip goes.... apparently i have to change bit 7 of the seconds byte to 0 for it to "turn on"..... corect me if i'm wrong but surely i'm already doing this by writing "0" as the byte?

Snood

[NavMicroSystems]

...can you explain to me what the purpose of a pullup resistor is and why it is needed in this instance.

OK, I'll try it in brief:

A PullUp is required when you have an output pin that is open Drain (or open Collector)
An open collector output is "open" if not set "LOW"
The PullUp pulls this open Pin "HIGH"

The SDA pin on an I2C device is such an open Drain output as it is bi-directional.

Melanie has written an excellent example for the DS1307, see: MN1307.txt

Another thread about RTC's with a lot of useful information can be found here

Take some time to read it from the beginning, you can really learn a lto from it.