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    One of my circuits uses an 18LF2523. When we were bringing up the board for the first time, a technician noticed that the circuit was working, but the voltages were off. He measured VCC and found that it was 11.5V! A diode had been installed backwards.
    The PIC had been working fine for 15-20 minutes before the problem was noticed. He reversed the diode and the circuit (and the PIC) worked normally.
    I didn't try all the peripherals, but the USART, the PWM and all the I/O pins I tried were working normally.

    Of course, we replaced the PIC before shipment for reliability reasons.
    Charles Linquist

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    Impressive! I might try that tonight with one of my PIC's
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    Please put on your safety glasses, a helmet and gloves. It may blow!

    Post your interesting result hen...

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    I have mentioned it before, but I once used 16C73 (I'm embarrassed to say that I ever used 16 - series chips). The 16C73 was one in a ceramic package and a quartz window (it was UV-erasable, remember those?). Because it had to be put into an eraser for 10 minutes every time I wanted to reprogram it, I was constantly plugging it into, and pulling it out of, a nylon 3M proto-board. After one such insertion, I smelled something and looked over at the proto-board. Smoke was rising! I shut off the power and (stupidly) used my finger to see just which component was overheating. I touched the PIC and got a blister on my finger. After the PIC had cooled down, I removed it from the protoboard, and the 'groove' under the chip was melted. The nylon was dark brown as well. I noticed that I had installed the PIC backwards.
    I was sad that I had to throw the PIC away (the erasable ones cost $20 each back then), but before I did, I put it back in the protoboard in the correct orientation. It worked!!!

    About the same time (also with a PIC16C73), I needed a 20Mhz crystal. I didn't have any, but I had lots of TTL 'can' oscillators. I didn't have any 20Mhz parts, but I did have a 24Mhz oscillator. I tried it. It worked - no problem. So I kept plugging in higher and higher frequency oscillators. It ran fine at 57.6Mhz, but didn't work at 64Mhz. I can't say that I tested everything at that frequency, but it did a fine job of reading the A/D and adjusting an EEPOT in a "tracking" mode.
    VCC was 5V. Who knows what it would have done if I had raised the voltage to 11V!

    So - you can overclock PICs.
    Charles Linquist

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    Here's an 18F2550 that was powered with 15V for ~15 minutes.



    A 30F3012 was on the same board. It got hot, but didn't melt like the 2550.
    Neither of the chips worked afterwards.



    Keep those safety glasses on!
    Last edited by Darrel Taylor; - 18th January 2012 at 22:54.
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    On the last picture, there is "melabs.com" and 30F3012 chip. Can I speculate that something you are cooking there at Melabs?

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