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    Default Re: PWM fan speed control with a 12F683

    Thanks Sayzer,
    I've had some other issues to resolve before I finally got to try it today. It works fine and does exactly what I want to accomplish.

    I do have a few questions about how the voodoo that itdoo works but I want to experiment a bit more before I ask them.
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    Since you were able to provide an answer for that, do you have any ideas how I can run two outputs simultaneously but each at different output levels?

    What I want to do is have a switch turn on a fan at stepped levels and another switch that controls a light/LED that can be set to a different level.

    I know that isn't what the post started with but I assumed I'd be able to use the PWM command for setting the levels and maybe erroneously thought I could accomplish that for two different outputs.

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    Since you have an onboard PWM module running in the background, you can also have a second pwm by software running in the foreground.

    The code would be as follows.
    You are now using two buttons, one is for LED and the other is for Fan.
    I suggest that you use Fan on GPIO.2 (on board module), and LED on GPIO.5 pin.
    Also, you have button on GPIO.3, and you are puling it down .
    Nowyou have a second button but is is being pulled high.



    Code:
    @ DEVICE PIC12F683, FCMEN_OFF, IESO_OFF, INTRC_OSC_NOCLKOUT , WDT_OFF, PWRT_ON, MCLR_OFF, PROTECT_ON, BOD_OFF
     
     OSCCON   = %01110001         ' Internal 8MHz osc.
     DEFINE OSC 8
     
     ' ======= Common Settings =================================
     ADCON0 = 0
     ANSEL   = 0
     CMCON0 = 7                     ' Comparators off.
     
     TRISIO = 0
     GPIO     = 0
     
     ' ============= PWM Settings =========
     CCP1CON =     %00001100             ' CCP1, PWM mode
     PR2         =     250                         '
     T2CON     =     %00000101             ' TMR2 on, prescaler 1:4
     CCPR1L   = 0
     Speed VAR CCPR1L ' Speed variablefor LED brightness.   
     
     Speed2 VAR BYTE   ' Speed2  variable for fan speed.
     
     ' GPIO.0         ' Empty.
     ' GPIO.1         ' Empty.
     ' GPIO.2         ' LED is connected to GPIO.2 (on board PWM module)
     Btn   VAR GPIO.3   ' Assuming ; the pin is pulled down to GND by 10K resistor, and button pulls it high to Vdd.
     Btn2 VAR GPIO.4   ' Second button. But the pin is pulled high internally. So no external pull up or pull down resistor is required.
                      ' Have a button between this pin and GND (unlike the first button).   
     Fan   VAR GPIO.5   ' Fan motor output. 
     
     
     INPUT Btn2             ' Make the second button pin an input pin.
     OPTION_REG.7 = 0 '
     WPU.4 = 1               ' Enable internal pull up resisitor for Second button pin (GP4)
     
     
     
     PAUSE 10
     Speed2 = 0
     
     ' First button, btn, controls the LED via onboard PWM module.
     ' Second button controls the FAN via software PWM via GPIO.5 output pin and GPIO.4 input pin.
     ' Having the Fan on GPIO.2 and LED on GPIO.5 would be better I think.
     
     Start:
     
              IF Btn = 1 THEN           ' When this button  is pressed, it pulls the pin high.
                     IF Speed + 85 < 256 THEN       ' 0, 85, 170, 255, 0 
                              Speed = Speed + 85
                     ELSE
                             Speed = 0
                     ENDIF
             
             WHILE Btn = 1           ' When this button is being pressed, have no interruption on Fan control.
                             PWM Fan,Speed2,1   
                        WEND
         ENDIF
         
         IF Btn2 = 0 THEN           ' When this button  is pressed, it pulls the pin low.
                     IF Speed2 + 85 < 256 THEN       ' 0, 85, 170, 255, 0 
                              Speed2 = Speed2 + 85
                     ELSE
                             Speed2 = 0
                     ENDIF
             
             WHILE Btn2 = 0                 ' When this button is being pressed, have no interruption on Fan control.
                             PWM Fan,Speed2,1    
                         WEND
         ENDIF
         
         
         PWM Fan,Speed2,1   ' Always drive the fan output.  
         
         
     GOTO Start
     
     END
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    Default Re: PWM fan speed control with a 12F683

    You are my hero. I've yet to try it but I really appreciate your help. Thanks

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    Default Re: PWM fan speed control with a 12F683

    I have a couple of questions I hope you'll answer so I can understand what's going on better.

    Why is it important to put the fan on gpio.2? I realize it's the "on-board pwm module" but what does that buy you in either performance or code simplicity? Why couldn't I put it on any pin like the LED?

    Why turn all these off: FCMEN_OFF, IESO_OFF, WDT_OFF ?

    Are these two statements redundant:
    OSCCON = %01110001 ' Internal 8MHz osc.
    DEFINE OSC 8


    Thanks for your time and patience.



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    Why turn all these off: FCMEN_OFF, IESO_OFF, WDT_OFF ?
    Since you're using the internal OSC... there's no need to use the internal/external switchover feature, same goes for FailSafe clock.... check out the datasheet for the whole set of crispy and ... obscure... details

    WDT_OFF? It's really up to you to decide, I tend to left it to ON... but, it's always case by case... still the datasheet will provide you some detail about the benefits of WDT to ON.

    Are these two statements redundant:
    OSCCON = %01110001 ' Internal 8MHz osc.
    DEFINE OSC 8
    No they're not, the OSCCON line specify the OSC speed to the PIC, while the DEFINE OSC specify the OSC Speed to the compiler.
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    Got the program and got the circuit set up. It seems to work well with LEDs but feeding the output to a FET, at least the FET I'm using, won't trigger the FET.

    I looked at it with a scope and I'm getting barely over a 2V Peak signal. I assumed I'd get 5V square wave pulses spaced to get the right voltage from the PWM module. Did I do something wrong or do I need to find another FET?

    I do appreciate the help and your patience.

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