U2 programmer problem - Saleae Logic Probe measurements, SOLVED


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    Default Re: U2 programmer problem - Saleae Logic Probe measurements

    Quote Originally Posted by HenrikOlsson View Post
    ...I don't see you have any trigger set up...
    What would you suggest?

    I figure using MCLR is the key, but under what conditions?

    I checked the manual but didn't see too much detail on trigger. I've never used a "trigger" before, it does exactly that right? It starts the procedure and then that condition is ignored?

    So I'd look for MCLR going up?

    I assume getting rid of that Blank Check Before and Verify After steps could help too, it's not really necessary.

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    Disconnect any extra hardware attached to your computer (camera, printer & plah plah plah)

    Clean the USB driver with UsbDeview, reconnect your U2 programmer, wash & rinse again.
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    BTW, is the Saelig probe able to handle the 13V (or so) on the MCLR pin?!?

    Get rid of it while programming.
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    Default Re: U2 programmer problem - Saleae Logic Probe measurements

    Quote Originally Posted by mister_e View Post
    Disconnect any extra hardware attached to your computer (camera, printer & plah plah plah)

    Clean the USB driver with UsbDeview, reconnect your U2 programmer, wash & rinse again.

    I only have mouse and keyboard attached.

    Cleaned with Usbdeview, uninstalled programmer, rebooted, reinstalled v4.32 from CD and everything works ok!

    Merci le Bleuet!

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    [Insert Big Grin here]
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    Default Re: U2 programmer problem - Saleae Logic Probe measurements

    I upped the rate to 100M@200KHz.

    (the bottom PC is the one that programs properly)

    This is the start of the programming step:

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    At first glance things look practically identical. The only thing I haven't figured yet in Logic is how to get the same zoom ratio to make it easier to visually compare 2 windows.


    This is a zoom on that very first PGC signal from the red box:

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    The PGC signals are somewhat delayed relative to PGD.


    And this is the second PGC signal:

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    An even bigger difference in signals.


    I guess I'm stuck to using the old Pentium 4 until I figure this out.

    (I have to say I love my Saleae logic probe)

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