I am have 2 problems. First after trying Hyper Terminal in Windows and RS-232C Lab I can see that I am sending data from the PIC. What these programs show is just the same set of characters and not what they should be. Baud is at 2400, data bits are 8, stop bit is 1, parity is none, flow control is none. I have been trying now for two days so I really need help! I also find that Microcode Studio Plus ICD will not talk to the MAX-232 so not I am completely lost! I thought about a bad cable and if this were so I could not program the PIC. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Ed