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    Default Re: 16F1827 table not behaving as expected

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    Hi Mark,

    You can run a simple test to see what the limit is with the table attached.

    Setup a loop to call your LOOKUP2 routine with an index value from 0 to 99.

    Where does it fail?
    Hi Bruce

    I thought the same thing driving home from work.

    I tried it and it does indeed go "off in the weeds" after reading 85 elements.

    So I take it that mere mortals cannot tweak the macros?

    I can decimate my table to remove the leading zero "placekeepers" and redundant upper section to get below 85 elements, but then I'll have to play some other games to assert some artificial offsets to enter the table correctly under differing circumstances.

    This is a case where the compiler/macros really should be tweaked to allow larger tables, to allow things like thermistor tables, etc.

    Maybe small table limits made sense back when the devices had little code space, but that's not as true anymore.

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    Hi Mark,

    You can tweak the macros if you want, but I don't recommend it unless you're as good as Darrel...

    The 85 limit is because the compiler generates 3 table entries per list value. 3 x 85 = 255, which is the largest number that fits in the W register.

    It would be easier to just use three lookup2 tables with a select case to jump to the appropriate lookup2 routine.
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    I tried breaking up my 254-element table into four 64-element tables as mark_s suggested in another thread, but it's giving more trouble and now "Crossing Page Bounday errors".

    It behave as though PBP only allows one LOOKUP2 table construct per program. The DacDwell variable returns with the proper value only if the Measurement variable is contained within the original "called" table.

    I've inserted some serial traps to show if the index is working properly between the tables (it is), and to show if the table result is working properly (it isn't)

    You can see on the right side of the JPG the serial messages showing the Measurement variable changing to the appropriate table as the Measurement variable increments/decrements, but the DacDwell variable shows zero when it references the second table.

    When the Measurement variable increments to 64 or above, it would normally advance to the next table and return the DacDwell values found there, but as youcan see it returns zeros.

    I only have room for DwellTable 3 & 4 in the screenshot (DwellTable 1 & 2 contain nothing but zeros for padding), but if I force the Measurement variable to DwellTable to 3 or 4, it will return the proper values until it crosses to the next table construct

    So far I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't with respect to these tables.

    I'm staring to consider one of the newer "K" parts, but I'm afraid I'll run into compiler deficiencies there as well.

    Still not sure if someone is going to fix the macros to match the executable, or drop back to a 85-element limit.

    Can anyone offer a way forward?

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    [CODE]'
    DwellTable3:
    'if measurement > 191 then goto DwellTable4
    lookup2 Measurement,[$5161,$4c48,$47ce,$43d1,$403f,$3d09,$3a21,$377d,_ '128 - 135 1.5pps - 2.2pps
    $3513,$32dd,$30d4,$2ef3,$2d36,$2b99,$2a18,$28b1,_ '136 - 143 2.3pps - 3.0pps
    $2761,$2626,$24fe,$23e7,$22e1,$21e9,$20fe,$2020,_ '144 - 151 3.1pps - 3.8pps
    $1f4d,$1e85,$1dc6,$1d10,$1c63,$1bbe,$1b20,$1a89,_ '152 - 159 3.9pps - 4.6pps
    $19f9,$196e,$18ea,$186a,$17ef,$177a,$1708,$169b,_ '160 - 167 4.7pps - 5.4pps
    $1632,$15cc,$156a,$150c,$14b1,$1458,$1403,$13b0,_ '168 - 175 5.5pps - 6.2pps
    $1360,$1313,$12c8,$127f,$1238,$11f4,$11b1,$1170,_ '176 - 183 6.3pps - 7.0pps
    $1131,$10f4,$10b9,$107f,$1047,$1010,$0fda,$0fa6],dacdwell3 '184 - 191 7.1pps - 7.8pps
    serout2 portb.5,396,["Measurement = ", dec measurement, 13, 10]
    serout2 portb.5,396,["DacDwell3 = ", isHEX4 DacDwell3, 13, 10]
    serout2 portb.5,396,[13, 10] '
    pause 1000
    return
    'goto Endtable
    '
    DwellTable4:
    lookup2 Measurement,[$0f74,$0f42,$0f12,$0ee3,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,_ '192 - 199 7.9pps - 8.2pps & 900Hz w/ no mod
    $0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$5161,$4c48,_ '200 - 207 900Hz w/no mod & 1.5pps - 1.6pps
    $47ce,$43d1,$403f,$3d09,$3a21,$377d,$3513,$32dd,_ '208 - 215 1.7pps - 2.5pps
    $30d4,$2ef3,$2d36,$2b99,$2a18,$28b1,$2761,$2626,_ '216 - 223 2.6pps - 3.3pps
    $24fe,$23e7,$22e1,$21e9,$20fe,$2020,$1f4d,$1e85,_ '224 - 231 3.4pps - 4.1pps
    $1dc6,$1d10,$1c63,$1bbe,$1b20,$1a89,$19f9,$196e,_ '232 - 239 4.2pps - 4.9pps
    $18ea,$186a,$17ef,$177a,$1708,$169b,$1632,$15cc,_ '240 - 247 5.0pps - 5.7pps
    $156a,$150c,$14b1,$1458,$1403,$13b0],dacdwell4 '248 - 253 5.8pps - 6.3pps
    serout2 portb.5,396,["Measurement = ", dec measurement, 13, 10]
    serout2 portb.5,396,["DacDwell4 = ", isHEX4 DacDwell4, 13, 10]
    serout2 portb.5,396,[13, 10] '
    pause 1000
    return'[CODE]
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    Hi Mark,
    Those error messages are okay.

    If I am reading your code correctly you are not off setting the index value. Each lookup2 table has a possible index address of 0 - 85. In your case you need to offset each table by 64

    Something like this

    If index > 64 then table2
    if index > 128 then table3
    if index > 192 then table4

    Table1: 'No offset

    Lookup2 index[1-64]var
    return

    Table2:

    Index = index -64 'offset
    Lookup2 index[65 -128]var
    return

    Table3:

    Index = index -128 'offset
    Lookup2 index[129-192]var
    return

    Table4:

    Index = index -192 'offset
    Lookup2 index[193-256]var
    return
    Last edited by mark_s; - 2nd April 2011 at 20:15. Reason: bad math

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    Default Re: 16F1827 table not behaving as expected

    Something like this should work so you don't alter your index variable.
    Code:
    main:
      for Measurement = 0 to 17
          gosub DwellTable
      next Measurement
      goto main
     
    DwellTable:
      IF Measurement > 5 THEN Dwel2
      lookup2 Measurement,[$0110,$0120,$0130,$0140,$0150,$0160],dacdwell
      RETURN
     
    Dwel2:
      IF Measurement > 11 THEN Dwel3
      lookup2 Measurement-6,[$0111,$0121,$0131,$0141,$0151,$0161],dacdwell
      RETURN
     
    Dwel3:
      lookup2 Measurement-12,[$0112,$0122,$0132,$0142,$0152,$0162],dacdwell
      RETURN
    Regards,

    -Bruce
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    Default Re: 16F1827 table not behaving as expected

    Good point Bruce, the way I showed it the index variable would be out of wack.

    "Never try to pick up a penny in front of a moving steam roller"

    Regards

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    You can save a ton of code space by not including all the zeros in the upper section. Give this a shot.
    Code:
    Measurement var byte
    dacdwell var word
    dacdwell = 0
     
    main:
      FOR Measurement = 0 TO 253    ' 254 total entries
          IF Measurement < 128 THEN ' all values with an index < 128 are 0's
             dacdwell = 0
             GOSUB Show
          ELSE
             GOSUB DwellTable
          ENDIF
      NEXT Measurement
     
    FIN:
      GOTO FIN
     
    DwellTable:
    IF Measurement > 191 THEN DwellTable2
    LOOKUP2 Measurement-128,_
      [$5161,$4c48,$47ce,$43d1,$403f,$3d09,$3a21,$377d,_ '128 - 135 1.5pps - 2.2pps
       $3513,$32dd,$30d4,$2ef3,$2d36,$2b99,$2a18,$28b1,_ '136 - 143 2.3pps - 3.0pps
       $2761,$2626,$24fe,$23e7,$22e1,$21e9,$20fe,$2020,_ '144 - 151 3.1pps - 3.8pps
       $1f4d,$1e85,$1dc6,$1d10,$1c63,$1bbe,$1b20,$1a89,_ '152 - 159 3.9pps - 4.6pps
       $19f9,$196e,$18ea,$186a,$17ef,$177a,$1708,$169b,_ '160 - 167 4.7pps - 5.4pps
       $1632,$15cc,$156a,$150c,$14b1,$1458,$1403,$13b0,_ '168 - 175 5.5pps - 6.2pps
       $1360,$1313,$12c8,$127f,$1238,$11f4,$11b1,$1170,_ '176 - 183 6.3pps - 7.0pps
       $1131,$10f4,$10b9,$107f,$1047,$1010,$0fda,$0fa6],dacdwell  '184 - 191 7.1pps - 7.8pps
    GOTO Show ' Show results
     
    DwellTable2:
    LOOKUP2 Measurement-192,_
      [$0f74,$0f42,$0f12,$0ee3,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,_ '192 - 199 7.9pps - 8.2pps & 900Hz w/ no mod
       $0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$5161,$4c48,_ '200 - 207 900Hz w/no mod & 1.5pps - 1.6pps
       $47ce,$43d1,$403f,$3d09,$3a21,$377d,$3513,$32dd,_ '208 - 215 1.7pps - 2.5pps
       $30d4,$2ef3,$2d36,$2b99,$2a18,$28b1,$2761,$2626,_ '216 - 223 2.6pps - 3.3pps
       $24fe,$23e7,$22e1,$21e9,$20fe,$2020,$1f4d,$1e85,_ '224 - 231 3.4pps - 4.1pps
       $1dc6,$1d10,$1c63,$1bbe,$1b20,$1a89,$19f9,$196e,_ '232 - 239 4.2pps - 4.9pps
       $18ea,$186a,$17ef,$177a,$1708,$169b,$1632,$15cc,_ '240 - 247 5.0pps - 5.7pps
       $156a,$150c,$14b1,$1458,$1403,$13b0],dacdwell     '248 - 253 5.8pps - 6.3pps 
     
    Show:
       serout2 portb.5,396, ["Measurement = ", DEC measurement, 13, 10]
       serout2 portb.5,396, ["DacDwell = ", ISHEX4 DacDwell, 13, 10]
       serout2 portb.5,396,[13, 10] '
       pause 1000
       return
     
       end
    Last edited by Bruce; - 2nd April 2011 at 23:52.
    Regards,

    -Bruce
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    You can save a ton of code space by not including all the zeros in the upper section. Give this a shot.
    Code:
    Measurement var byte
    dacdwell var word
    dacdwell = 0
     
    main:
      FOR Measurement = 0 TO 253    ' 254 total entries
          IF Measurement < 128 THEN ' all values with an index < 128 are 0's
             dacdwell = 0
             GOSUB Show
          ELSE
             GOSUB DwellTable
          ENDIF
      NEXT Measurement
     
    FIN:
      GOTO FIN
     
    DwellTable:
    IF Measurement > 191 THEN DwellTable2
    LOOKUP2 Measurement-128,_
      [$5161,$4c48,$47ce,$43d1,$403f,$3d09,$3a21,$377d,_ '128 - 135 1.5pps - 2.2pps
       $3513,$32dd,$30d4,$2ef3,$2d36,$2b99,$2a18,$28b1,_ '136 - 143 2.3pps - 3.0pps
       $2761,$2626,$24fe,$23e7,$22e1,$21e9,$20fe,$2020,_ '144 - 151 3.1pps - 3.8pps
       $1f4d,$1e85,$1dc6,$1d10,$1c63,$1bbe,$1b20,$1a89,_ '152 - 159 3.9pps - 4.6pps
       $19f9,$196e,$18ea,$186a,$17ef,$177a,$1708,$169b,_ '160 - 167 4.7pps - 5.4pps
       $1632,$15cc,$156a,$150c,$14b1,$1458,$1403,$13b0,_ '168 - 175 5.5pps - 6.2pps
       $1360,$1313,$12c8,$127f,$1238,$11f4,$11b1,$1170,_ '176 - 183 6.3pps - 7.0pps
       $1131,$10f4,$10b9,$107f,$1047,$1010,$0fda,$0fa6],dacdwell  '184 - 191 7.1pps - 7.8pps
    GOTO Show ' Show results
     
    DwellTable2:
    LOOKUP2 Measurement-192,_
      [$0f74,$0f42,$0f12,$0ee3,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,_ '192 - 199 7.9pps - 8.2pps & 900Hz w/ no mod
       $0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$5161,$4c48,_ '200 - 207 900Hz w/no mod & 1.5pps - 1.6pps
       $47ce,$43d1,$403f,$3d09,$3a21,$377d,$3513,$32dd,_ '208 - 215 1.7pps - 2.5pps
       $30d4,$2ef3,$2d36,$2b99,$2a18,$28b1,$2761,$2626,_ '216 - 223 2.6pps - 3.3pps
       $24fe,$23e7,$22e1,$21e9,$20fe,$2020,$1f4d,$1e85,_ '224 - 231 3.4pps - 4.1pps
       $1dc6,$1d10,$1c63,$1bbe,$1b20,$1a89,$19f9,$196e,_ '232 - 239 4.2pps - 4.9pps
       $18ea,$186a,$17ef,$177a,$1708,$169b,$1632,$15cc,_ '240 - 247 5.0pps - 5.7pps
       $156a,$150c,$14b1,$1458,$1403,$13b0],dacdwell     '248 - 253 5.8pps - 6.3pps 
     
    Show:
       serout2 portb.5,396, ["Measurement = ", DEC measurement, 13, 10]
       serout2 portb.5,396, ["DacDwell = ", ISHEX4 DacDwell, 13, 10]
       serout2 portb.5,396,[13, 10] '
       pause 1000
       return
     
       end
    Hi Bruce

    I was trying to implement something like that earlier as part of trying to fix the table issue. Now that the tables are fixed it'll be nice to loose all the leading zeroes!

    This project has been challenging but interesting.

    It's an audible annunciator with a variable sweep tone burst to indicate urgency, with a variable frequency amplitude modulator.

    All scaled to fit within the table limits of PBP!

    Thanks for the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    Something like this should work so you don't alter your index variable.
    Code:
    main:
      for Measurement = 0 to 17
          gosub DwellTable
      next Measurement
      goto main
     
    DwellTable:
      IF Measurement > 5 THEN Dwel2
      lookup2 Measurement,[$0110,$0120,$0130,$0140,$0150,$0160],dacdwell
      RETURN
     
    Dwel2:
      IF Measurement > 11 THEN Dwel3
      lookup2 Measurement-6,[$0111,$0121,$0131,$0141,$0151,$0161],dacdwell
      RETURN
     
    Dwel3:
      lookup2 Measurement-12,[$0112,$0122,$0132,$0142,$0152,$0162],dacdwell
      RETURN
    Hi Bruce

    Yup, that's what ended up working.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark_s View Post
    Hi Mark,
    Those error messages are okay.

    If I am reading your code correctly you are not off setting the index value. Each lookup2 table has a possible index address of 0 - 85. In your case you need to offset each table by 64

    Something like this

    If index > 64 then table2
    if index > 128 then table3
    if index > 192 then table4

    Table1: 'No offset

    Lookup2 index[1-64]var
    return

    Table2:

    Index = index -64 'offset
    Lookup2 index[65 -128]var
    return
    Exactly right Mark! I was forgetting to offset the Measurement variable back to zero relative to each table.

    The Page Boundary errors went away too!

    Thanks for looking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark_s View Post
    Hi Mark,
    Those error messages are okay.

    If I am reading your code correctly you are not off setting the index value. Each lookup2 table has a possible index address of 0 - 85. In your case you need to offset each table by 64

    Something like this

    If index > 64 then table2
    if index > 128 then table3
    if index > 192 then table4

    Table1: 'No offset

    Lookup2 index[1-64]var
    return

    Table2:

    Index = index -64 'offset
    Lookup2 index[65 -128]var
    return
    Exactly right Mark! I was forgetting to offset the Measurement variable back to zero relative to each table.

    The Page Boundary errors went away too!

    Thanks for the tips. I've been working on this for hours!

    I think my vector is still off by one count, but substantially working code below:

    Code:
    '*******************************************************************************
    ' 
    DwellTable1:
    if measurement > 63 then goto DwellTable2 
    '
    Vector = measurement
    '
    lookup2 Vector,     [$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,_ '0 - 7       
                         $0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,_ '8 - 15 
                         $0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,_ '16 - 23
                         $0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,_ '24 - 31 
                         $0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,_ '32 - 39
                         $0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,_ '40 - 47
                         $0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,_ '48 - 55
                         $0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000],dacdwell '56 - 63
    goto Endtable
    '
    DwellTable2:
    if measurement > 127 then goto DwellTable3 
    '
    Vector = measurement - 64
    '
    lookup2 Vector,     [$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,_ '64 - 71
                         $0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,_ '72 - 79
                         $0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,_ '80 - 87
                         $0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,_ '88 - 95
                         $0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,_ '96 - 103
                         $0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,_ '104 - 111
                         $0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,_ '112 - 119
                         $0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000],dacdwell '120 - 127
    goto Endtable
    '
    DwellTable3:
    if measurement > 191 then goto DwellTable4
    '
    Vector = measurement - 128
    '
    lookup2 Vector,     [$5161,$4c48,$47ce,$43d1,$403f,$3d09,$3a21,$377d,_ '128 - 135  1.5pps - 2.2pps
                         $3513,$32dd,$30d4,$2ef3,$2d36,$2b99,$2a18,$28b1,_ '136 - 143  2.3pps - 3.0pps
                         $2761,$2626,$24fe,$23e7,$22e1,$21e9,$20fe,$2020,_ '144 - 151  3.1pps - 3.8pps
                         $1f4d,$1e85,$1dc6,$1d10,$1c63,$1bbe,$1b20,$1a89,_ '152 - 159  3.9pps - 4.6pps
                         $19f9,$196e,$18ea,$186a,$17ef,$177a,$1708,$169b,_ '160 - 167  4.7pps - 5.4pps
                         $1632,$15cc,$156a,$150c,$14b1,$1458,$1403,$13b0,_ '168 - 175  5.5pps - 6.2pps
                         $1360,$1313,$12c8,$127f,$1238,$11f4,$11b1,$1170,_ '176 - 183  6.3pps - 7.0pps
                         $1131,$10f4,$10b9,$107f,$1047,$1010,$0fda,$0fa6],dacdwell '184 - 191  7.1pps - 7.8pps
    goto Endtable
    '
    DwellTable4:
    '
    Vector = measurement - 192
    '
    lookup2 vector,     [$0f74,$0f42,$0f12,$0ee3,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,_ '192 - 199  7.9pps - 8.2pps & 900Hz w/ no mod
                         $0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$5161,$4c48,_ '200 - 207  900Hz w/no mod & 1.5pps - 1.6pps
                         $47ce,$43d1,$403f,$3d09,$3a21,$377d,$3513,$32dd,_ '208 - 215  1.7pps - 2.5pps
                         $30d4,$2ef3,$2d36,$2b99,$2a18,$28b1,$2761,$2626,_ '216 - 223  2.6pps - 3.3pps
                         $24fe,$23e7,$22e1,$21e9,$20fe,$2020,$1f4d,$1e85,_ '224 - 231  3.4pps - 4.1pps
                         $1dc6,$1d10,$1c63,$1bbe,$1b20,$1a89,$19f9,$196e,_ '232 - 239  4.2pps - 4.9pps
                         $18ea,$186a,$17ef,$177a,$1708,$169b,$1632,$15cc,_ '240 - 247  5.0pps - 5.7pps
                         $156a,$150c,$14b1,$1458,$1403,$13b0],dacdwell     '248 - 253  5.8pps - 6.3pps             
    Endtable:
    '
    return
    '
    end

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