Make an acceleration/deceleration ramp : any ideas?


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    My approach would be to generate the "points" you need for the line equation, given your slope and time parameters, in Excel. Then print a CSV file of the results, then copy the CSV file into your program as a table. It'll take some minor editing to generate your table but no big deal, and get the values from the table with Lookup or Lookup2. You can even change the slope of your ramp easily by adjusting the dwell time at each point, etc.

    I do this sort of thing a lot for thermistor temperature tables, etc. Saves the time of executing the extensive formula for thermistor values.

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    Can you give more info?

    What is the motor being used for?

    How does the user change the speed?

    Typical servo systems use a PID routine.

    Henrik Olsson posted a great PID program example on the forum. As I recall the thread mentioned motors and DT interupts.

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    I don't want to use a PID routine or a lookup table (because a lookup table is hungry of program memory space). It's a open-loop inverter.

    The user changes the frequency reference by turning a potentiometer connected to a ADCIN port.

    Exemple :

    Note the acceleration and deceleration ramp of the output frequency, that changes the speed of the AC motor.

    I like to have a routine (in a low-priority interrupt for exemple, to have the most accurate timings) that increments a value from the actual output frequency (for exemple 20Hz) to the frequency reference (for exemple 60Hz, defined by the user) in x seconds (for exemple 10 seconds, can be modified in real-time), and that without using any "pause" command (because my PIC has a lot things to do during this time).
    Last edited by pxidr84; - 1st April 2011 at 17:17.

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    You can delegate the timekeeping and ramping to the ISR. What you need to pass to it is the 'target' value and 'step size' Step Size could be +ve or -ve depending on which way you want it to move.

    the ISR could tick every millisec or maybe more depending on how fast you want to change the output.

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    I don't know how fast your ramp needs to be - but..

    I would use a timer interrupt - say 1 millisecond

    Multiply ramp time (in seconds) X 1000 to get the number of steps
    Take

    (endvalue - startvalue)/numberofsteps to get step size
    Initialize a counter with the start value and increment the step size in each interrupt.

    Depending on your needs, you may have to add some extra increments, because the step size will be an integer, and when multiplied by the number of steps may not exactly equal the
    end value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Linquis View Post
    I don't know how fast your ramp needs to be - but..

    I would use a timer interrupt - say 1 millisecond

    Multiply ramp time (in seconds) X 1000 to get the number of steps
    Take

    (endvalue - startvalue)/numberofsteps to get step size
    Initialize a counter with the start value and increment the step size in each interrupt.

    Depending on your needs, you may have to add some extra increments, because the step size will be an integer, and when multiplied by the number of steps may not exactly equal the
    end value.
    My maximum acceleration slope is incrementing a variable from 0 to 1200 in one second with a resolution of 1 (steps of 1).

    I've tried to "translate" your algorithm into this :


    'Variable init
    freq var word
    maxfreq var word
    minfreq var word
    stepnum var word
    stepsize var word
    time var word

    'Variables def
    minfreq=10
    maxfreq=1200
    time=10

    'Calculate steps
    stepnum=time*1000
    stepsize=(maxfreq-minfreq)/stepnum

    'Init counter
    freq=minfreq

    main:

    ' Counter
    freq=freq+stepsize

    'Update LCD
    lcdout $fe,$2,"Frequency: ",dec5 freq

    ' 1ms time base (simulates an interrupt)
    pause 1

    goto main


    It is correct? Because the result of "stepsize" is a float in this case (0.119)...
    Last edited by pxidr84; - 2nd April 2011 at 14:30.

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    Default Re: Make an acceleration/deceleration ramp : any ideas?

    According to my calculations -

    endval = 1200
    startval = 20


    endval - startval = 1180
    ramp time in milliseconds = 1000

    1180/1000 = 1.18 (so 1180/1000 = 1 = increment)
    1180//1000 = 180 (=remainder = fractional)



    fractional = 0
    oldfractional = 0

    frequency = 20 ; start value

    ISR:

    Frequency = frequency + increment ; increment the main part

    fractional = fractional + remainder ; Deal with the fractional part
    If fractional dig3 != oldfractional ; keep adding up the partial until we reach 1000
    oldfractional = fractional ; update so we can see the next change
    frequency = frequency + 1 ; add a count - since we broke 1000
    Endif


    This will increment by one every program loop and then add an extra count every 5 (or so) loops. I haven't tested the algorithm, but I believe it should deal properly with the 'wrap' when "fractional" overflows.
    Charles Linquist

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