sinusoidal PWM

[sangaboy]

Hi !

Thankx sougata and HenrikOlsson for your helpwhich take me into good stages

there some challenges have any one can help me
(1) My PIC is16cF877 having CCP1 and CCP2 can it able to generate three phase SPWM?. for my little knowledge I know that for single phase the duty cycle is stored into CCP1 to generate SPWM. for three phase should I have a pic of three CCP modules?.

(2) how can I improves these my small number of steps(10) cause I read page 63/281 of PIC 16F87X data sheet and microchip application note AN655 page 1/16 I saw the formular for resolution and number of steps respectively.

The maximum PWM resolution (bits) for a given PWM frequensy is given by the formular below


Resolution = log(FOSC/FWPM)/log(2) bits

I want to set my PWM frequency = 5kHZ
my FOSC = 4MHZ
which gives resolution of 10 it's ok and scale factor of 1023

but
from microchip application note AN655
PWM_Freq = (Sine_freq) • (# of steps) • 10

my sine frequency is 50Hz
PWM_Freq =5kHZ

gives me 10 steps which I think is very small to give clear SPWM.

thankx

[sangaboy]

Hi !

Thankx sougata and HenrikOlsson for your helpwhich take me into good stages

there some challenges I have any one can help me:

(1) My PIC is16cF877 have CCP1 and CCP2 can it able to generate three phase SPWM?. for my little knowledge I know that for single phase the duty cycle is stored into CCP1 to generate SPWM. for three phase should I have a pic with three CCP modules?.

(2) how can I improves these small number of steps(10) cause I read page 63/281 of PIC 16F87X data sheet and microchip application note AN655 page 1/16 I .http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/e...tes/00655a.pdf I read the formular for bits resolution and number of steps respectively.

The maximum PWM resolution (bits) for a given PWM frequensy is given by the formular below


Resolution = log(FOSC/FWPM)/log(2) bits

I want to set my PWM frequency = 5kHZ
my FOSC = 4MHZ
which gives resolution of 10 it's ok and scale factor of 1023

but
from microchip application note AN655
PWM_Freq = (Sine_freq) • (# of steps) • 10

my sine frequency is 50Hz
PWM_Freq =5kHZ

gives me 10 steps which I think is very small to give clear SPWM .

thankx

[HenrikOlsson]

Hi,
What exactly do you mean with SPWM? What does the S mean?

If you're generating the PWM signal with CCP-module you'll need 3 CCP-modules to generate three individual PWM signals. As have already been suggested ditch the '877 and take a look at the 18F2431/4431 which is designed for motor control providing deadtime control and dedicated hardware fault inputs to disable the PWM signals - and more.

If you need to stick to a 16 series PIC then use the parametric search tool at Microchips website to look up a PIC with three CCP-modules, perhaps the 16F777.

I just looked briefly at the app-note you reference and they seem to be using a low-pass filter to get a "true" sine-wave output, to do that they calculated/estimated that at least 10PWM cycles is needed to bring the output voltage to the desired value.

How many "steps" do you want, per period? Let's say you have a lookup table of 32 'steps'. Ie it takes 32 "updates" to create one full cycle of the sinewave, so at 50Hz you need to change the PWM dutycycle 50*32=1600 times per second, which means that you'll get atleast three full PWM cycles for each "step" with a 5kHz PWM frequency, I think that'll work.

/Henrik.

[sangaboy]

Hi !


SPWM stands for Sinusoidal Pulse With Modulation.These signals will be used to control Three phase inverter.

thankx

[Dave]

I'm afraid the letter sequence SPWM actually was derived by Darrel for his contribution of Software Pulse Width Modulation.

[HenrikOlsson]

That's what I thought but figured it couldn't be since we're talking about CCP-modules etc. Doesn't matter, now I know what the OP means although I've never heard the term before.

/Henrik.

[spcw1234]

Perhaps this thread will be of use to you.

http://www.picbasic.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=1846