OMG! Microchip has released a new Beta IDE (MPLAB X) Totally a new IDE! I have been using 8.63 with PBP as the Basic language tool. I use the MPLAB Assembler and C-18 tools for the 16 bit series. I have not down loaded this new IDE because it does not support the PIC Kit 2 (programmer). Why they didn't support the PK2 and did support the PK3 leaves many of us out of the picture. Let us know if the transition from files in 8.63 to X goes well. Enjoy the fun! RC