Thanks RobK,

I took the 5v line from the EPIC Programmer to the In-Circuit PIC, still no luck.

The prgrammer comes up with the message:

'Target Device does not match selected device'

Do you have to change any settings with the programmer or is it just the same as if the PIC was in the programmer on its own?

I read somewhere that i think you don't supoossed to use the 5v line from the EPIC to power your circuit due to the possible current drain.

Any other ideas? Does your connections look the same as mine. Do you also use only the four lines from the EPIC - Vpp, RB6, RB7 and Gnd.

Many thanks.

Steve.