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    Of course there is no 'exchange rate' between mainland British, Scottish, Northern Ireland, Isle of Man, or Channel Islands currency. If it says "Pound" and has the Queens head on it, then it's valid currency. However... it's rare to have regional banknotes (or coins) circulating so far out from a geographic region, therefore the shopkeeper in Kent may never have seen one before, whereas a Scottish banknote in an area closer to Scotland (like Northumberland) would be much more common and accepted without question. I hear there's 26 million in Northern Ireland banknotes going cheap...

    but (I feel) it also insulates the few european "NON EURO" countries
    from european (or global) business
    as one has to take the risk of changes in (one or more) exchange rates.
    (at least for long term conracts)
    Business has been conducted with exchange rates (or barter in goods) since time immemorial... there was no problem before the Euro, why suddenly is there a problem with trade between Euro and non-Euro countries now? This is a smokescreen put up by politicians to harmonise Europe into a giant Federal Block to compete with the USA. My boss tells the story of once securing a major contract in Eastern Europe to be told he wasn't going to be paid in any known 'currency' but by way of one and a half trainloads of Titanium instead.

    The EC started off as the EEC (note the extra 'E'). European Economic Community (or Common Market as it was also called) whereby trade with our neighbours could be conducted with less bureaucracy and at favourable terms. There is nothing wrong with this, it is after all common sense. However, over time, an 'E' has been lost (or to put it correctly, rubbed-out), it was done quietly and subtly, and most people didn't realise it happened. Suddenly the word 'Economic' no longer existed and a political superstate was born - one which 99% of it's inhabitants neither wanted or voted for it.

    Regardless what politicians say, people in Europe are fiercly Nationalistic and proud of it too. You will always hear when asked... "I am Italian" or "I am French" or "I am Dutch", but when did someone ever reply "I am European"? It is not the same if you ask someone from the USA... "I am American" could mean they're from Alabama or Alaska or even Hawaii.

    "Vive le difference"

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    If you permit, the frenchie wants to point out little things ...

    to Luciano ... 1 Euro is ~ 20/3 Francs ... seems some rust in your head ???
    1 Euro is ~ 2000 lire !!! Wonderful, it's the first time I can get an easy count ... ( I'm 47 ...)
    You should learn a bit from our count units : la plaque, la brique, le pascal, le sou, la Thune, le sac, le flesh ... between others.

    to all "price breakers" : you do not need to give your client account n° to enter this forum ... Crownhill is just as RS : Service included ...

    Now, I think it's a really a bit unfair to tell a restaurants' boss it's too expensive ... while sitting at one of his tables ...

    I go elsewhere ( but to a Mc DO !!! ) ... that's all !!!

    Alain

    PS: Whatever you tell about a company ... you always make adds for it ...
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    Hello Alain,

    My point was that during a business conversation people have no
    interest getting lost in mental currency conversions while comparing
    prices from Euro to their old local currency. This is why they
    still like to use the old local currency during business conversations.

    Time will fix this problem!

    You are right my brain is rusty and I have problems with the
    20/3 French Euro to Francs conversion method.
    (It takes me more than 1 second to do a mental conversion).

    Try the mental conversion of 5507 Euro in Francs!

    Below are the two 20/3 conversion methods.
    (The second one is more precise).

    Conversions Euro to Francs
    5507 Euro * 6.55957 = 36123.55 French Francs

    ===========================
    The 20/3 method:

    5507 Euro /3 = 1835 ~
    1835 * 20 = 36713 Francs

    ===========================
    The (20 / 3 – 0.1) method:

    5507 Euro /3 = 1835 ~
    1835 * 20 = 36713 Francs
    1/10 of 5507 = 550 ~
    36713 - 550 = 36136 Francs
    ===========================


    Best regards,

    Luciano Rustybrain

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    Hi, Luciano ...

    I was just waiting for your " yeeeeesss, but" ... for noticing a more precise result is achived taking 10% off the result in Francs.

    But now, thats the same as for English or German speaking : you must think in Euros, as you think in English or German.
    You and me currently speak latin ( I still can read Caesar's memories in the text ...) that's another game !!!

    I also think our price references have to be definitly converted ...in Euros.

    One might have voted NO before !!!

    Alain

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    I don't understand.
    Please show me how with the 5507 Euro example.

    Hi, Luciano ...
    I was just waiting for your " yeeeeesss, but" ... for noticing a more precise result is achived taking 10% off the result in Francs.

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    You wrote it yourself in your last example ...

    5507 x 20 = ~ 110 000
    110 000 / 3 = 110 000 x 0.333 = 33 000+ 3300 + 330 = 36630... ( so much easier this way ...)

    36630 - 550 = 36120

    may be it was not clear enough from me: you take 10% of the Euros number off the result in Francs ...

    error is always less than 1/1000 ...sufficient for a first comparison, no ???

    Also note i'll never buy components for 5500 Euros !!!

    Alain

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    Alain,

    Universal Studios is going to hire you as
    the main character of "A Beautiful Mind II".
    For the Nobel Prize we will see.

    Luciano

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