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    Thumbs down WOW ! Thats Smart

    Not using a compiler, using a calculator.
    Input=250 and you want about 1/4 of that.
    250*.2235=55.875
    With out using a decimal point!

    Yes, I always like the types of Stupid answer's one gets when asking a simple question.

    Number is a variable and constantly changing.

    As I said for example 250

    This is just part of a longer calculation. If it was as simple as just putting a number I really wanted, I think I might of though of that....

    I was just looking for the format to input numbers like .00044

    thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by ronsimpson View Post
    Not using a compiler, using a calculator.
    Input=250 and you want about 1/4 of that.
    250*.2235=55.875
    With out using a decimal point!
    250*223/1000=55.75 (I did not use 2235/10000)
    If the input will fit into a byte and 223 fits into a byte. Then (byte * byte)=word and then word/1000=55.
    If you need a input like 350 which is a word and/or you want to use 2235/10000 then you will need to do word*word and word**word to get two words or 32 bits. You might also look at word*/word to get 16 bits out of the middle of the 32 bits.

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    Gee, and you question SO looked like you needed to multiply a whole number by .2235 and the .2235 was where the trouble is. If you need .00044*.2235, thats a different problem. You are correct, your question was simplified.Where are you getting numbers like .00044 in your pic? how is that generated?
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    Question Just trying to learn how to use work around in PIC of Decimal values

    Quote Originally Posted by cncmachineguy View Post
    Gee, and you question SO looked like you needed to multiply a whole number by .2235 and the .2235 was where the trouble is. If you need .00044*.2235, thats a different problem. You are correct, your question was simplified.Where are you getting numbers like .00044 in your pic? how is that generated?
    Hello

    Thanks

    I am just trying to understand the work around format in PIC to work with floating point values, the systems I normally program have floating point at part of there normal stucture.

    I though from the orignal post that all you needed to do is use fractions in your formula and it would work but it does not seem to be so.

    For example If I needed to multiply some varriable by .234 or any decimal value to get an answer, how would this be done?

    In my case I am takeing a analog voltage and turning in into a tempature that is displayed on a screen.

    The temperature result does not need to be floating point

    But if I can not use floating point numbers to scale correctly the value could be off by 5+- degrees pretty quickly

    The true formula is

    result=adc10((adc10*.00034)+.2235) 'where adc10 in the pic 10 analog register

    To be within 1% of the true tempature

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark30504 View Post
    The true formula is

    result=adc10((adc10*.00034)+.2235) 'where adc10 in the pic 10 analog register

    To be within 1% of the true tempature

    Thanks
    so plugging in extremes:
    adc10=1 gives us
    result=1((1*.00034)+.2235)=1(.00034+.2235)=1(.2238 4)=.22384
    adc10=1023 gives us
    result=1023((1023*.00034)+.2235)=1023(.34782+.2235 )=1023(.57132)=584.46036

    Is this correct? Seems like quite a lot of work to scale an answer. what temps do the extremes represent?
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    Back up to post #8

    The constants
    .00034
    .2235

    Would be changed to
    34
    223

    In your formula.
    Then at the end you would divide by a power of ten.
    If all of this fits into the variable type used
    BYTE
    WORD
    LONG
    then the result will be truncated to an integer.
    Truncating to an integer is what you wanted...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mark30504 View Post
    Yes, I always like the types of Stupid answer's one gets when asking a simple question.
    Well, as was stated your question, ronsimpson did answer very good.

    A simple thank would be OK if you did no liked the time he spent for you.

    Anyway, PBP does not support FP directly. So tricks like the one suggested should be used.

    A byte is 0-255 in range and a word 0-65535, so none will store you values as is.

    Have a look at n-bit math here:

    http://www.picbasic.co.uk/forum/show...ght=n-bit+math

    or real Floating Point here:

    http://melabs.com/resources/fp.htm

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