Quote Originally Posted by mackrackit View Post
Does the $6,000 include a working prototype?
No "working prototypes"; actual production ready modules.

$6000.00 might sound like alot but it includes the obvious aggravation factor that would be involved here.

Because of the proliferation of the DIY "modules" and DIY PCB etc. there is this idea that designing electronics is cheap. It's not. Slapping together a few parts and calling it done is not a design. I won't go into it because frankly it would be a waste of time. I design products designed for millions of units per run. If I did things the way I see some around here do I wouldn't be a design consultant, I'd ask people every day "you want fries with that".

The REAL problem here is that any human being has this inherent want to help others. I do too. However, when people start a thread with "I know nothing about electronics or this stuff" and then continue on with nonsense it can get under your skin real fast. Or, in this case jump on a Picbasic forum and ask for C code; come on, get real.

I think there is a very simple solution to this kind of problem. I've seen it suggested before in one form or another and the suggestor gets slammed for it. There should be a test to gain entry to the site. If you can't pass a simple test on basic electronics then you should go somewhere else. Immediately "beginners" say "but I came here for help". I'm talking about the truly basic; ohms law, transistor switching, simple logic, an "increment x" program. I in fact happened upon an electronics site that had just this kind of "entrance exam". It was for high-end audio amp design. I took the test and failed. I only failed by a couple of questions, but the fact of the matter is the people that were members of that site could converse with each other on a level that they all knew what the other was talking about. If I wanted to join it was on me to go learn what the things are that I failed. This site is open to anyone with a computer. I stopped coming here because you had to weed through all the nonsense to find the posts from people that had something genuine to offer or the ones that knew what they are doing but need help. Frankly, it's too bad it's called the "PICBASIC" forum. It sheds a bad light on a very good product and the people that are genuinely interested in using it.