Optimizing IR range

[mackrackit]

I would look at the emitting angle from the diode. Get as narrow as you can. Then consider a lens for focus if you need more range.

[ardhuru]

Yes, I realize that. But if I could get at least around 30 feet by incorporating one of the above, without involving optics, I'd be happier. The wide angle you mentioned I could achieve by skewing the 2 LEDs slightly at an angle from each other.

Anand

[Bruce]

Hi Anand,

There are a lot of things to consider to increase range of an IR link, but in general just increasing the IR emitters radiant intensity will be enough.

You can do this by increasing power to the IR LED, or using one with a higher radiant intensity at the same power levels you're driving the one you have now at.

An FET driving the one you have now with say 14-ohms series resistance may do the trick if your LED can handle the peak-pulsed current.

2 LEDs in parallel with each having a series limiting resistor may work too.

A couple of other things to watch out for are;

1) Match the LED wavelength to the IR modules.
2) Get the IR carrier as close as possible to the center band-pass frequency of the IR receivers.

If the IR receivers peak spectral sensitivity is in the 940nm region, then use a 940nm IR LED.

If the center band-pass frequency of the IR receiver is 38kHz, then get the carrier as close as possible to 38kHz. Those 2 things alone make a huge difference in range.

And shielding the IR receiver from ambient disturbance sources like direct (or indirect) exposure to sunlight, flourescent lighting, etc, will increase gain of the IR receiver, and help to increase range.

I've attached an app note from Vishay you might find helpful. If you still need help let me know. I do a lot of work with IR.

Something like the attached schematic should work for 2 LEDs in parallel.

[dhouston]

Anand,

When the duty cycle is low, IREDs can withstand very high currents. So, you can reduce the size of the current limiting resistor and reduce the duty cycle.

A few years back I designed an IR transmitter in a CF card form factor for use with a PDA. I don't recall which IRED it used (Bruce sold them.) but IIRC I used a 10-ohm resistor and a transistor to drive it. With the 3V supply, I was amazed to find that each one (We did 100% testing.) had 100 ± a foot or two range. Of course, it may have been that the TV used as a target had an extra-sensitive receiver.

I assume you want to use this outdoors where sunlight will be a factor. Choosing a receiver with a narrow bandwidth will help.

[ardhuru]

Okay guys, I now have the information I was sketchy about.

Bruce, I always thought the LEDs in series would be more effecient, but with a 3 volt supply I see why you suggested them in parallel.

Unfortunately, I have no way of knowing precisely what the receiver expects as a carrier. I'm just going by emulating a cheap clone I could buy. It has a pretty wimpy range of a maximum of 10 feet, which is why I'm building my own. And while I'm at it perhaps add a feature or two. Also, the receiver is placed in the camera such that the clone works only if it is directly in front of the camera. I'm hoping mine, with its extra punch, would work bouncing off the camera's body extrusions, at least to a certain extent. I'll try playing around with the carrier frequency to determine the best.

Dave, getting that kind of range with a 3 volt supply does sound like an achievement. Hope I get something close! You mentioned a lower duty cycle; would say 20% be safe enough with a 10 ohm resistor? Am currently using 50%. I'm afraid I didnt convey the right information; the receiver is built in into the camera, I'm not making it. BTW, I've seen most 3V transmitters with a coin battery (as opposed to 2 AA) use a capacitor in parallel wiith the battery. Is it because a coin cell cannot provide high enough currents for the pulse burst? Did your project use a coin?

Thanks for the inputs, folks, and I'll be back with my findings!

Regards,

Anand

[dhouston]

Anand,

I've used 20-25% duty cycle. In the application I mentioned, my card was powered by the PDA. I've never found a capacitor was necessary but most of my transmitter apps were RF which takes less power. I prefer BR type batteries as they maintain their charge better than most other types. Panasonic has some discharge curves comparing BR to CR. A Google search on "Panasonic BR" will likely find them.

I understood that the receiver was in the camera. I should have been more clear that I was generalizing. Still, it will help if you can find out (from the manufacturer?) what wavelength IR the receiver is designed for. Since it is intended for outdoor use, it is likely that they've used a narrow bandwidth receiver.

This might be helpful - although I think its points have been covered here by me and Bruce.

http://davehouston.org/ir-rf_fundamentals.htm

[dhouston]

Anand,

I found a page from someone who reverse engineered a Canon remote.

• http://www.doc-diy.net/photo/rc-1_hacked/