Damn Dwane, my head hurts now... I have no IDEA what the hell u said. I kinda get a little bit of how you did that whol thing, but im still a little fuzzy on the Vs Vl stuff. But i can see why you would wanna do it that way. honestly, i was trying to think of a way to do it like you did, but like i said, i am a total PicBASIC newbie.