$2 where?
the local electronics shop near me doesn't sell them for $2, it's closer to 4. either way, I need 20, if I can cut my costs, I'm sure as heck willing to try. there are more things beyond PIC's to this project, and my cost is already upto $600....

either way though, for the sake of knowledge, I'd like to know the answer.

I'm still somewhat new to pics, so this seems like a good excuse to learn what some of the others are...

PICMAN
the 16f84a doesn't have an internal OSC.