12f675_fuse_about_to_blow!

[ScaleRobotics]

That looks about right for that chip. You should have save available though! Maybe you need to have some code in the window for that. Looks like most of the greyed out options are for the in circuit debuger. Some other chips: 16F627(A), 16F628(A), 16F73, 16F74, 16F76, 16F77, 16F870, 16F871, 16F873(A), 16F874(A), 16F876(A), 16F877(A), 16F87, 16F88, 18F242, 18F248, 18F252, 18F258, 18F442, 18F448, 18F452, 18F458, 18F1220, 18F1320, 18F2220, 18F2320, 18F4220, 18F4320, 18F6620 and 18F8620

have an in circuit debug available for them, but as you can see, they are a bit limited. It is an interesting feature though.

Walter

[LEDave]

Hi Walter

You should have save available though! Maybe you need to have some code in the window for that.

Exactly that, I added some code and 'Save' changed from greyed out to Bold.

That was interesting, I changed the chip from a 12F675 to a 16F627(A) and the RUN-STOP-STEP-PAUSE changed from greyed out to Bold,
like you said then that must be because the chip has a Debug available to them (I've never used Debug).

Cheers: Dave

[ScaleRobotics]

(I've never used Debug).

Hi Dave,

Bruce did a great write up on how to use it here: http://www.rentron.com/PicBasic/MCS_X3.htm

I used to use it, and it is pretty cool. When I needed to try to debug things that were using the serial port already, I had to find other ways to debug (not necessarily better). But I would say it can be pretty helpful when you are starting out.

The way it debugs is that it adds code into your program to talk back and forth through the serial port. That way it updates registers, etc so you can see them in the ICD. It uses a fair amount of resources, so it slows things down a great deal, but it is fast enough for a lot of projects.

[LEDave]

Thanks for that Walter and the link, very interesting and something else to look into.

Dave

[LEDave]

We've touched on this before, when I compile Bruce's TX program I get these errors (see attachment). This is because as mackrackit said earlier in the thread:

Bruce is using PM for an assembler in that example.

And:

PM is the assembler from the Pic Basic folks. It works well on the older and smaller chips.

Also:

MPASM from MicroChip works for everything.

So the compiler error is due (I think) to having the wrong type of configuration fuse in Bruce's program (see second attachment) and I need to change them to this type (see third attachment) and it will compile.

Have I got that right?

Dave

[mackrackit]

You will want to change these lines in your code

@ DEVICE PIC12F675,MCLR_OFF,INTRC_OSC_NOCLKOUT,WDT_OFF,BOD_OFF
@ DEVICE PWRT_ON,PROTECT_OFF

to

@ __config _INTRC_OSC_NOCLKOUT & _WDT_OFF & _MCLRE_OFF & _CP_OFF

when using MPASM as an assembler.

And comment the *.inc file in the PBP directory.

http://www.picbasic.co.uk/forum/cont...o-your-Program

[LEDave]

Hi mackrackit,

Well I changed the lines of code and compiled the program without commenting the the *.inc file in the PBP directory and the compiler gave the error below(see attachment). I was expecting that as per your Forum link.

It's the

comment the *.inc file in the PBP directory.

that's causing me the problem and I've conFUSED myself big time here. The only .INC files I can find are in this path:C:\Program Files\Microchip\MPASM Suite. I've read the Forum page link you posted up but I still can't see what I need to do.

Another pointer if poss please.

LedimDave