a little help with capacitive power supply values


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    Default perhaps a mystery begins to unravel itself .. ? or begins ..?

    Hi guys
    With reference to post #66 and the rest that follow and everything else prior to it.

    Interesting indeed !

    Keith ..AWESOME reply!

    I agree with you here
    triac is switching the live supply to the load.
    Ok now for the beginning of the mystery and to add to this threads confusion you added this in :-)
    If the circuitry was common neutral then the triac would also be switching neutral with the result that the entire load would be live when the circuit appeared to be OFF.
    So from that statement we should assume COMMON LIVE is the supply of choice (in terms of being a little safer) not COMMON NEUTRAL ? Assuming of course that this circuit is indeed a COMMON LIVE circuit ?

    Any comments on the above statements ?

    Steve ....

    Nice...! You threw in another side-winder, in fact, you mentioned something very real !
    A two prong(pin) plug in most countries (correct me if I'm wrong ?) is easily reversed , in other words pluged in the other way around .. both sides same sides kind of thing so if I decide to design my PSU with the left prong as LIVE and the right prong as NEUTRAL .. all fine and dandy but then I unplug the device, put the pulg into the wall socket the other way around and suddenly everything is changed around :-)
    Does this mean I should re-design my whole circuit ?
    UH OH !

    Well I encountered this dilemma a few nights back ... just before I got the broomstick, earmuffs and rubber gloves out and got all kitted up, I thought "Gee on this two-prong plug what happens when everything turns around ?"
    "Will the circuit blow? What will the effect be? Will I need to change everything?"

    So it works , turned either way around ! ( AC @ 50 Hz hmmm? )

    And ..on the safety side is this circuit any less dangerous than a lamp that takes a bayonet or screw in light bulb ? Let's face it there is 110/120VAC or 220/230/240VAC right at the contacts where you screw the light in , not so ?

    What about the computer AT form not so long ago which had mains voltage right at the front panel pretty much like may household appliances,TV's and radios before soft-power switches became the flavour of the day.

    OK my next mission would be to alter the circuit so that the 'circuit ground' is the LIVE line in the schematic but .. do I really need to ?

    Awaiting more comments and thoughts :-)

    Oh and the question still remains ... is the circuit in post # common live or common neutral ? and why ?

    Kind regards

    Dennis
    Last edited by Dennis; - 13th January 2010 at 21:42.

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