Simulator

[ScaleRobotics]

Got a computer self-reset for a right click on a wire I was placing ...

That is not good at all! Sorry to hear that Alain.

Probably not your issue, but you do need to load 3 supporting programs:

• Latest version of DirectX -
• .Net 2.0 Redistributable.
• J# 2.0 Redistributable.

Here is some trouble shooting information: http://www.virtualbreadboard.com/troubleshooting.html

I worked with it for about two hours, with mixed results. Some larger files with multiple include files did not behave as expected. I never received a reset, but I did have some stackunderflow errors. (I didn't know you could underflow). I had success with smaller programs though. I got mister_e's matrix keypad (using 4x4) to work on it, which I thought was kind of cool. Also got a few blinky and serial lcd programs to work. It did not behave correctly on my altimeter program with the oversampling include file. I kept getting 0 for altitude, and used the slider for my pressure sensor.

So, I think mixed results is the best way to put it. Who knows, maybe they can eventually fix some of the bugs. Maybe something to keep an eye on.

[Acetronics2]

I knew VBB for a while and still have the V 1.4 ansd 1.9 Aboard ... never noticed such behaviour ...

I think Previous versions, ISIS VSM or Multisim 11 give " less worse " results ... despite the free download ...

BTW ... lost all my loging cookies ... that's the worse of all !!!

Alain

[Darrel Taylor]

BTW ... lost all my loging cookies ... that's the worse of all !!!

I hate "Losing Cookies". Although it's usually from "Lager" instead of loging.

But, I am SOOOOO impressed with Proteus/ISIS, I would never even bother trying any other simulators.
It is worth every penny, and I figure it's already saved several thousand $ in hardware, test equipment and time not wasted.

Everyone should have it.

[Ioannis]

I am impressed too. By the price also!

It seems that they do not support PBP. I know hex files can be imported. But not Basic files, right?

Ioannis

[Acetronics2]

I am impressed too. By the price also!

It seems that they do not support PBP. I know hex files can be imported. But not Basic files, right?

Ioannis

Hi, Ioannis

COFF files also can be imported ... I was told it was better for debugging tools use ...

BUT I never could make the RTC chips work in their simulations ... always read "0" ( despite screen shows good data ) ... but the " live " circuit runs perfectly well ...

ISIS do not like mixing analog and digital circuitry nor ...

Alain

[malc-c]

Nice find, but would be nice if it had loads of more components were available. I too experienced issues even after installing the J# update (I already have up to date .Net etc) in that when adding a link the layout area went black and Vista reverted to basic colours. The program then became non-responsive.

On the subject of breadboarding, anyone know of an application that can take an Eagle schematic and lay it out automatically on stripboard. I've used DIY Layout creator, which is a manual process, but this leads to human error creeping in a when mixing 240V with 5V dc there could be nasty consequences...

[F1CHF]

hello
As I am not super fluent in english, could you check my affirmations ?
1/ Isis ask for HEX file, we can't feed the simulator with PBP files ?
2/ we can see datas from PIC registers (trisa , etc ..) but it is not possible to see the datas from our VARIABLES
lest say TOTO var BYTE and the big application like TOTO = TOTO + 1 !
for hardware simulation, it is super nice (voltmeter, oscillo, LED, relays, etc ..) but in my case (sending in serial mode
21 bits with clock and enable line ... using Three outputs pins from a PIC) is it not so easy to see if everything is OK
and in front of that, I have some Bitwise operation on the datas line , that why I try to see my TOTO variable !

that's all folks

Francois

for the moment I will continue with my breadboard ...using debug, or LCDOUT or serout ... but normally the PIC
is a 8 pins ... so I must devellop on a big one first ... that why I try to get a Software simulator.
best regards,