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    Yep
    that about how I run mine
    power up pic & camera it take a 10 sec. test movie then powerdown
    until INTERRUPT from PIR

    change 470 res. to 1k on each pin .no pull down res.
    I will try to test for you by 2morrow afternoon and post
    thanks
    " be nice it's people like me that make people like you look smart"
    yes I read the datasheet, of the 300 pages I understood 10

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    Sorry but I'm just not having any luck with this.
    look this over and see if I missed anything.

    hardwire:
    1k resistor from portc.5 to Lanc line
    1k resistor from portc.4 to Lanc line
    Lanc ground to system ground
    put the PBP code in and nothing

    I can drop in my assembly code in and lift portc.5 wire it works
    it 's got to be that the PBP timing is off but I don't have a scope to check

    after playing with this Lanc stuff for about 2 years let me share some of things I learned the hardway.
    1. this one cause me to lose more hair than all others put together
    the Lanc line can backfeed a small amount of voltage to the chip
    which can and will keep the program running with supply to the chip turn off
    which means that cycling power may not reset the program to the begining
    what I do is use a double pole power switch that not only kills power to the board but also opens the lanc line
    2. 27 record and 29 stop are listed under special commands
    2827 and 2829 none of my cameras with work with this
    BUT THEY WILL WORK USING 1827 & 1829
    3. I put my cams to sleep with 185E and wake up with the standard pulse lanc line low then send the record command I have never had to use the
    185C power on command ( on my command sheet it list 5c but does not
    tell what it is .

    4. I think most people that does this shift 48 to 52us to read and write in the middle of the bit

    maybe some one else on the forum can come up with some answers
    Sorry I could not make it work

    Code:
    '****************************************************************
    '*  Name    : pbp_1.BAS                                      *
    '*  Author  : GROUNDED                                   *
    '*  Notice  : Copyright (c) 2009 Copyright (c)                  *
    '*          : All Rights Reserved                               *
    '*  Date    : 9/23/2009                                         *
    '*  Version : 1.0                                               *
    '*  Notes   : portc.4 read /portc.5 write                 *
    '*          : testing sending Lanc commands using PBP          *
    '****************************************************************
    
     '****************************************************************
       pic16F676
    @ __config _XT_OSC & _WDT_ON & _MCLRE_OFF & _CP_OFF
    
    
    PAUSE 5000
    
    CMCON = 7                   'COMPARATOR OFF
    VRCON = 0                   'VOLTAGE REF. DISABLE
    TRISA = %00001000           'MAKE A.2 & A.3 INPUTS
    TRISC = %00000000		    'MAKE .C.0,C.1 PORTC INPUTS .4 &.5 FOR LANC USE
    ANSEL = %00000000 	
    OPTION_REG=%01000000        'RAISING EDGE/WEAK PULL UP  
    WPUA = %00000000            'NO WEAK PULLUPS  
    
    HIGH PORTC.0  :PAUSE 10000 :LOW  PORTC.0
                        
       command_bit var   bit 
       syncbit     var   byte
       syncbyte    var   word
       counter     var   byte
       value       var   byte
       Bits        var   byte
       Time        var   byte
    
    
    
    Goto start
    
          Sync_byte:                     
       syncbyte = 0                      
       while syncbyte < 700
       pulsin portc.4, 1, syncbyte
       wend
       Return
    
          Sync_bit:                        
       syncbit = 0                        
       while syncbit < 9
       pulsin portc.4, 0, syncbit
       wend
          Return
       
          Command_byte:                    
          gosub sync_byte
       pauseus 80                          
       input portc.5               'first byte to send (LSB 1ST)Hex 18 %0001,1000
       pauseus 312    '000
       low portc.5
       pauseus 208    '11
       input portc.5
       pauseus 312    '000
       input portc.5                       'Stop bits set high
             Return
    
             Start:
       pause 1000   
       counter = 0
       gosub Power_off
       pause 10000
       'gosub DelayTime
       counter = 0
       gosub Wakeup
       'gosub Power_on
       pause 3000
       counter = 0
       gosub Record_on
       pause 10000
       counter = 0
       gosub Record_on
       pause 500
       goto Start
    
          Power_off:
          gosub Command_byte   
          gosub sync_bit
       input portc.5                       'Power off command #5E (LSB 1ST) %0101,1110
       pauseus 104    '0      
       low portc.5
       pauseus 416    '1111
       input portc.5
       pauseus 104    '0
       low portc.5
       pauseus 104    '1
       input portc.5
       pauseus 104    '0
       input portc.5                       'Stop bits set high
          counter = counter + 1
          if counter = 3 then Return              
          goto Power_off
       
          Power_on:
          gosub Command_byte
          gosub Sync_bit                     
       input portc.5                       
       pauseus 208     '00         'Power on Command 5C (LSB 1ST) %0101,1100
       low portc.5
       pauseus 312     '111
       input portc.5
       pauseus 104     '0
       low portc.5
       pauseus 104     '1
       input portc.5
       pauseus 208     '00 ????? maybe 104
       input portc.5                       'Stop bits set high
          counter = counter + 1
          if counter = 5 then Return
          goto Power_on
    
          Record_on:
          gosub Command_byte
          gosub Sync_bit                     
       low portc.5                         'Start Recording
       pauseus 208   '11                      'Record On 33 (LSB 1ST) %0011,0011
       input portc.5
       pauseus 208    '00
       low portc.5
       pauseus 208    '11
       input portc.5
       pauseus 208    '00
       input portc.5                       'Stop bits set high
          counter = counter + 1
          if counter = 5 then Return
          goto Record_on
      
             DelayTime:
       For Time = 0 to 60
       pause 60000
             Next Time
             Return
    
             Wakeup:
       low portc.5       'This wakes camera up for short period to accept commands
       pause 500
       input portc.5
       pause 100
             Return
    " be nice it's people like me that make people like you look smart"
    yes I read the datasheet, of the 300 pages I understood 10

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    Grounded
    I ran it today and my camera would turn off only, nothing else, Yesterday everything was working great. Then I remembered why I used two pins while setting this up. So I installed a 20k resistor from stamp pin b1 sync pin to ground and everything started working perfectly. I used two pins because I did not want to pull the sending line low, my scope showed only 3vdc on my camera not the 5vdc I expected.

    grounded
    2. 27 record and 29 stop are listed under special commands
    2827 and 2829 none of my cameras with work with this
    BUT THEY WILL WORK USING 1827 & 1829

    Yes I found the same thing remember the command_byte2 that I said was not used that was hex 28.

    grounded
    3. I put my cams to sleep with 185E and wake up with the standard pulse lanc line low then send the record command I have never had to use the
    185C power on command ( on my command sheet it list 5c but does not
    tell what it is .

    I understand, and have not tried this yet ( but will ) when setting something up I always use the full steps first, and then take the shortcuts later I would not be sure it works with all camers or not.

    grounded
    4. I think most people that does this shift 48 to 52us to read and write in the middle of the bit

    Your talking about sending data to the first two bytes, not sending right after the syncbit but waiting until the middle of the 1.4 ms frame and sending then. I have a sinc_bit which looks for the camers syncbit and sends right after it finishes so my timing is right on not just sending somewhere in the middle. But when using a different osc 4mhz and not 10 mhz it could be too tight for a slower speed and this is something I need to check.

    Now let me ask this Did you camera Power Down when you first turned on the pic's power. there is no delay so if the camera is not on and the switch between the camera and pic is not on and the pic is powered it will go into limbo and do nothing. So everything must be on then power the pic it should turnoff the camera immediately and be in sync.

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    Larry no the cam did not turn off, it just "did nothing"
    But I really be leave the problem is in the tight time this needs and my 4mhz
    maybe my problem with using PBP code. I no were near smart enough to know the if, &'s and butts of this but I have been told more than once that because of the timing you could not do this with PBP but I'm sure hoping that you
    are someone here will prove then wrong

    pm sent
    " be nice it's people like me that make people like you look smart"
    yes I read the datasheet, of the 300 pages I understood 10

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    Grounded
    I don't know whats wrong! I do indeed have it running right now, It has been running all day taking pictures every 15 minutes for 5 seconds at a time. PBP does indeed work and the timing is really not that tight. I did notice your using xt setting I have always used HS mode, have not looked over your program much yet. I see no reason that 4 mhz would not work.

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    grounded,
    here try this I made some changes in your program headers see if this works better for you.


    Code:
    	@ DEVICE PIC16F676, HS_OSC, WDT_ON, PWRT_ON, PROTECT_OFF
    	DEFINE OSC 4
    	TRISC = %00010000
    
       command_bit var   bit 
       syncbit     var   byte
       syncbyte    var   word
       counter     var   byte
       value       var   byte
       Bits        var   byte
       Time        var   byte
    
    	PAUSE 2000
    	Goto start
    
          Sync_byte:                     
       syncbyte = 0                      
       while syncbyte < 700
       pulsin portc.4, 1, syncbyte
       wend
       Return
    
          Sync_bit:                        
       syncbit = 0                        
       while syncbit < 9
       pulsin portc.4, 0, syncbit
       wend
          Return
       
          Command_byte:                    
          gosub sync_byte
       pauseus 80                          
       input portc.5               'first byte to send (LSB 1ST)Hex 18 %0001,1000
       pauseus 312    '000
       low portc.5
       pauseus 208    '11
       input portc.5
       pauseus 312    '000
       input portc.5                       'Stop bits set high
             Return
    
             Start:
       pause 1000   
       counter = 0
       gosub Power_off
       pause 10000
       'gosub DelayTime
       counter = 0
       gosub Wakeup
       'gosub Power_on
       pause 3000
       counter = 0
       gosub Record_on
       pause 10000
       counter = 0
       gosub Record_on
       pause 500
       goto Start
    
          Power_off:
          gosub Command_byte   
          gosub sync_bit
       input portc.5                       'Power off command #5E (LSB 1ST) %0101,1110
       pauseus 104    '0      
       low portc.5
       pauseus 416    '1111
       input portc.5
       pauseus 104    '0
       low portc.5
       pauseus 104    '1
       input portc.5
       pauseus 104    '0
       input portc.5                       'Stop bits set high
          counter = counter + 1
          if counter = 3 then Return              
          goto Power_off
       
          Power_on:
          gosub Command_byte
          gosub Sync_bit                     
       input portc.5                       
       pauseus 208     '00         'Power on Command 5C (LSB 1ST) %0101,1100
       low portc.5
       pauseus 312     '111
       input portc.5
       pauseus 104     '0
       low portc.5
       pauseus 104     '1
       input portc.5
       pauseus 208     '00 ????? maybe 104
       input portc.5                       'Stop bits set high
          counter = counter + 1
          if counter = 5 then Return
          goto Power_on
    
          Record_on:
          gosub Command_byte
          gosub Sync_bit                     
       low portc.5                         'Start Recording
       pauseus 208   '11                      'Record On 33 (LSB 1ST) %0011,0011
       input portc.5
       pauseus 208    '00
       low portc.5
       pauseus 208    '11
       input portc.5
       pauseus 208    '00
       input portc.5                       'Stop bits set high
          counter = counter + 1
          if counter = 5 then Return
          goto Record_on
      
             DelayTime:
       For Time = 0 to 60
       pause 60000
             Next Time
             Return
    
             Wakeup:
       low portc.5       'This wakes camera up for short period to accept commands
       pause 500
       input portc.5
       pause 100
    RETURN

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    Thumbs up up and running

    Larry 676 does not have hs_osc so it would not compile thanks for trying
    BUT:
    I'm up and running (cross fingers)
    remember I said something about adjusting to midpoint of the bit
    well I did 'Command_byte:you had dropped it from104 to 80 to adjust timing
    I dropped to 60 (about half) and bingo it's running (started@ 70 and it ran)
    I think 80 is right on the edge that's why sometime it work and then the next
    it did'n

    and this is with my standard Lanc control board using
    1 pin to read / write no pull up or down 60 ohm resistor in Lanc line
    this basic program just start recording 10 sec. movie then stop wait
    5 sec. and start over. If it will run one command it should run ALL

    it's been running for about 2 hr. with out missing abeat
    Now the bad news the next few days are full full full . not sure it I will have time to eat much less to play I mean work on this
    I would be interested to know how it looks on the scope
    grounded




    Code:
    '****************************************************************
    '*  Name    : pbplanc_T_1833.BAS                                   
    '*  Author  : GROUNDED                                     
    '*  Notice  : Copyright (c) 2009    
    '*          : All Rights Reserved                              
    '*  Date    : 9/25/2009                                       
    '*  Version : 1.0                                             
    '*  Notes   : testing pbp lanc  basic just record and stop                    
    ' 
         
    '****************************************************************
       pic16F676
    @ __config _XT_OSC & _WDT_ON & _MCLRE_OFF & _CP_OFF
    PAUSE 5000
    CMCON = 7                  
    VRCON = 0                   
    TRISA = %00001000           
    TRISC = %00000000		    
    ANSEL = %00000000 	
    OPTION_REG=%01000000         
    WPUA = %00000000            
    
    HIGH PORTC.0  :PAUSE 3000 :LOW  PORTC.0     'POWER UP LED
    
     PAUSE 1000
    
     command_bit var bit
     syncbit var byte
     syncbyte var word
     counter var byte
     value var byte
     Bits var byte
    
    Goto start
    
     Sync_byte: 
     syncbyte = 0 
     while syncbyte < 700
     pulsin PORTC.4, 1, syncbyte
     
     wend
     Return
    
     Sync_bit: 
     syncbit = 0 
     while syncbit < 9
     pulsin PORTC.4, 0, syncbit
     wend
     Return
    
     Command_byte:     '00011000   SEND 18   
     gosub sync_byte
     pauseus 60   'CHANGED FROM 80 TO 60 (LITTLE OVER HALF OF 104) TIMING ADJUST                    
     input PORTC.4                        
     pauseus 312  '000
     low PORTC.4
     pauseus 208  '11
     input PORTC.4
     pauseus 312  '000
      input PORTC.4 'Stop bits set high
     Return
     START:                       
    Record_on:           '11001100   SEND 33
     gosub Command_byte
     gosub Sync_bit
     
     low PORTC.4                                                          
     pauseus 208   '11                           
     input PORTC.4
     pauseus 208   '00
     low PORTC.4
     pauseus 208   '11
     input PORTC.4
     pauseus 208   '00
     input PORTC.4 'Stop bits set high
     counter = counter +1
     if counter = 4 then  GOTO  MT
     goto Record_on
     MT:
      COUNTER =0
    PAUSE 10000    '10 SEC. MOVIE
      
      Record_off:           '11001100    SEND 33
     gosub Command_byte
     gosub Sync_bit
     low PORTC.4                                                               
     pauseus 208   '11                            
     input PORTC.4
     pauseus 208   '00
     low PORTC.4
     pauseus 208   '11
     input PORTC.4
     pauseus 208   '00
     input PORTC.4 'Stop bits set high
     counter = counter +1
     if counter =4 then GOTO OVER
     goto Record_OFF
    
     OVER:
    
     PAUSE 5000 
    GOTO START
    " be nice it's people like me that make people like you look smart"
    yes I read the datasheet, of the 300 pages I understood 10

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