Thanks Melanie and Joe,

And I had even read Melanies post about not screwing up the DEFINE statements!
What happened was that I had copied some defines from the pbppic14.lib file and then modified them for PBP, but I missed changing them to upper case.

This is a good example of why you should post your code when you ask a question. No telling how long it would have taken me to find that.

thanks again