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    Hold the phone folks; I think I may have a hardware issue. I almost hope so, anyway. heh.

    BBIAF...

    SmugWimp

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    No Such Luck. What I thought was a miswiring turned out to be correct. But I did remove some (as of yet) unneeded wires for the buttons, until I get the rest of this moving along. It doesnt work any better, but it is easier to see.

    Here is the latest rendition of code:

    Code:
    REM LCD PIN Assignments above...
    
    NS_DA VAR PORTB.1
    NS_CK VAR PORTB.2
    MYCON VAR BYTE 'REM Control Value for NS73M
    
    START:
    'REM The Theory is that we setup all parameters, then turn it on.
    MYCON = $CC 'REM Setup Control Address for NS73M
    PAUSE 100 'REM Breathe a moment; let the chip get settled...
    
    REM I2CWRITE DATAPIN,CLOCKPIN,CONTROLADDRESS,PORTADDRESS,[DATAINBRACKETS]{, OPTIONALJUMPTOLABEL}
    
    I2CWRITE NS_DA,NS_CK,MYCON,$0E,[$05], BOOHA 'REM SOFTWARE RESET NS73M Chip
    PAUSE 10
    I2CWRITE NS_DA,NS_CK,MYCON,$00,[$A0] 'REM Set it up, dont turn it on yet...
    PAUSE 10
    I2CWRITE NS_DA,NS_CK,MYCON,$01,[$B4] 'REM Pilot On, Subcarrier On
    PAUSE 10
    I2CWRITE NS_DA,NS_CK,MYCON,$02,[$07] 'REM 2mw Power, Unlock Detect ON
    PAUSE 10
    I2CWRITE NS_DA,NS_CK,MYCON,$03,[$58] 'REM Frequency; Lower Byte
    PAUSE 10
    I2CWRITE NS_DA,NS_CK,MYCON,$04,[$2A] 'REM Frequency; Upper Byte
    PAUSE 10
    I2CWRITE NS_DA,NS_CK,MYCON,$08,[$1A] 'REM CEX Band 2
    PAUSE 10
    I2CWRITE NS_DA,NS_CK,MYCON,$00,[$A1] 'REM Ok, Turn it on...
    PAUSE 10
    I2CWRITE NS_DA,NS_CK,MYCON,$0E,[$05] 'REM SOFTWARE RESET NS73M Chip
    PAUSE 100
    I2CWRITE NS_DA,NS_CK,MYCON,$06,[$1E] 'REM Charge Pump
    PAUSE 10
    LCDOUT $FE, 1
    LCDOUT $FE, 2
    PAUSE 500
    LCDOUT $FE, $80
    LCDOUT "Transmitting?" 
    LCDOUT $FE, $C0
    LCDOUT "  supposedly..."
    PAUSE 1000
    GOTO THEEND
    
    BOOHA:
    	LCDOUT $FE, 1
    	LCDOUT $FE, 2
    	PAUSE 500
    	LCDOUT $FE, $80
    	LCDOUT "No ACK" 
    	LCDOUT $FE, $C0
    	LCDOUT ":("
    	PAUSE 1000
    	GOTO THEEND
    
    THEEND:
    END
    Interestingly enough, One of the reasons I thought it was a hardware failure, was I could remove one, or both of the I2C lines and still not get an error (evidenced by the optional jump label on the first I2CWRITE command, to reset the NS73M). However, if I "swapped" the lines, then I DID get a "No ACK" error. Weird. I still dont understand that. But it is wired correctly.

    I moved back to a 16F84A because it wasnt the problem and I have a bunch that I want to use.

    On the 16F84A, Pins A0-4 are used for data and RS for the LCD. Pin B0 is the E pin for the LCD, B1 is the I2C Data line, and B2 is the I2C Clock.

    On the SparkFun board, Line In is attached to my Ipod, IIC is attached to +3.3v, LA is attached to Ground, Data to B1, Clock to B2, TEB not connected, VCC to +3.3v and Ground to Ground.

    Again, It seems like it "should" work, but alas it does not. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!

    Cheers!

    SmugWimp

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    Just a guess here but the NS73M is not 5V tolerant. The pins connected to the PIC should be level compensated to match the logic levels required for the NS73M or a 3V PIC should be used.

    I use the NS73M quite reliably but not in I2C mode and my routines are written in Swordfish so I can't really comment on your code. Sorry I can't help more.....

    Tom
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    Tom, Thanks!

    Yeah, I have the NS73M on the end of a 3.3v regulator, and all but the LCD is on 3.3v.

    If I cant get I2C working, I guess I will go with the 3 wire... but was hoping not to have to use that extra pin...

    So goes life...

    Cheers!

    SmugWimp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Estes View Post
    Just a guess here but the NS73M is not 5V tolerant. The pins connected to the PIC should be level compensated to match the logic levels required for the NS73M or a 3V PIC should be used.

    I use the NS73M quite reliably but not in I2C mode and my routines are written in Swordfish so I can't really comment on your code. Sorry I can't help more.....

    Tom
    If you want post the code.
    Thanks

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    Hello SmugWimp,
    16F877a has a bunch of analog stuff, some of it on portC, including C.1 and you must disable to send I²C as that data is digital. How about posting the whole code including the config statements. I would read sec. 4.3 of the data sheet, it explains about using portC in I²C communications and which pins to use. I do not know how much it affects the operation, but portC has Schmitt trigger input buffers. It may be because of that, it will only work on the pins Microchip has designated as I²C , it is certainly worth the effort to check. BTW, I do not see the jump label or a subroutine to be jumped to, must be in the unposted code . . . Have you attempted to try this on PortB ? No S. T. on the inputs there. here is a link of someone who got I²C to work : http://www.picbasic.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=5632 Looks like I2CWRITE is not a stand alone statement, looks like it requires all the registers to be set as the datasheet specifys . . . The manual gives the impression this is a bit banged solution, sort of looks like it is not.
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    Look at this thread it discusses using I²C w 3.3v . . . http://www.picbasic.co.uk/forum/show...9879#post69879 I noticed a comment re: not using schmitt trigger inputs . . .
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    Joe,

    I appreciate all the help and suggestions.

    Here is my code, a schematic, and a photo of my setup.

    I have tried all kinds of things, and my underlying suspicion isnt that I am doing something wrong. I am just not finished with what is right.

    I have rewritten my code more similar to Boris' snippets, and his seems to work, heh. But mine still does not. Yet.


    My Configs are set as follows:

    __config _HS_OSC & _WDT_ON & _LVP_OFF & _CP_OFF & _WRT_OFF & _CPD_OFF & _BODEN_ON & _PWRTE_ON

    Code:
    '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
    '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
    ''   NS73M Control Test Environment  ''
    '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
    '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
    ' We are using a PIC 16F877A
    '
    ADCON1=%00000111
    Include "ModeDefs.Bas"
    DEFINE OSC 4
    TRISB=0
    DEFINE LCD_DREG	PORTA	'Define PIC port used for LCD Data lines
    DEFINE LCD_DBIT	0		'Define first pin of portb connected to LCD DB4
    DEFINE LCD_RSREG PORTA	'Define PIC port used for RS line of LCD
    DEFINE LCD_RSBIT 4		'Define Porta pin used for RS connection
    DEFINE LCD_EREG	PORTB	'Define PIC prot used for E line of LCD
    DEFINE LCD_EBIT	0		'Define PortB pin used for E connection
    DEFINE LCD_BITS	4		'Define the 4 bit communication mode to LCD
    DEFINE LCD_LINES 2		'Define using a 2 line LCD
    
    NS_CK VAR PORTB.1	' I2C Clock Pin
    NS_DA VAR PORTB.2	' I2C Data Pin
    NS_CON VAR BYTE		' I2C Device (the NS73M) Control Address/ReadWrite Value
    NS_REG VAR BYTE		' NS73M Register Address
    NS_VAL VAR BYTE		' NS73M Register Value
    
    NS_CON = %11001100	' Value of NS73M Address, with "Write" Bit
    
    NS_REG=$0E:NS_VAL=$05:GOSUB WRITEDAMMIT ' Reset the chip right off...  They said to.
    NS_REG=$01:NS_VAL=$B4:GOSUB WRITEDAMMIT ' Pilot On, Forced Subcarrier On
    NS_REG=$02:NS_VAL=$07:GOSUB WRITEDAMMIT ' Full (2mw) Power, Unlock Detect On,
    NS_REG=$03:NS_VAL=$58:GOSUB WRITEDAMMIT ' Lower Byte of Freq Address in Hex
    NS_REG=$04:NS_VAL=$2A:GOSUB WRITEDAMMIT ' Upper Byte of Freq Address in Hex
    NS_REG=$08:NS_VAL=$18:GOSUB WRITEDAMMIT ' CEX Band = 3 (For Now. Different Bands for Different Freq's)
    NS_REG=$00:NS_VAL=$A1:GOSUB WRITEDAMMIT ' Xmtr RF On, 200mv input level for 100% Modulation
    NS_REG=$0E:NS_VAL=$05:GOSUB WRITEDAMMIT ' Another Reset
    NS_REG=$06:NS_VAL=$1E:GOSUB WRITEDAMMIT ' Set the Charge Pumps, whatever Charge Pumps are...
    GOTO LCDSTUFF
    
    WRITEDAMMIT:
    I2CWRITE NS_DA,NS_CK,NS_CON,NS_REG,[NS_VAL] ' I2CWRITE Command. Supposed to work.
    PAUSE 10 ' Don't know if this is necessary, but everyone writing to EEProms use it, I figured it couldn't hurt.
    RETURN
    
    LCDSTUFF:
    LCDOUT $FE, 1
    LCDOUT $FE, 2
    PAUSE 500
    LCDOUT $FE, $80
    LCDOUT "  Are We" 
    LCDOUT $FE, $C0
    LCDOUT "Transmitting ??"
    PAUSE 1000
    
    THEEND:
    END






    I know the chip in the schematic says "16F84AP". disregard that. In reality, it is a 16F877A; the pin connections are the same still.

    Any ideas would be a godsend. Thanks!

    Cheers!

    SmugWimp
    Last edited by SmugWimp; - 8th February 2009 at 04:53.

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