Spoke too soon !... Not about the shepherds and wise men but about the program working. I have been programming a whole load of different sequences one after another. They have all worked ok until the last few, the program simply ignores them and returns to the beginning. If i bung in a goto directly to the last few sequences the behave erratically (cutting short loops etc. I wonder if I have broken some rule about memory size or borders or some such as I am far from clear on this subject .... To hell with the shepherds I just need the wise men.....