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Good day Picers
I have always done my programming with the Microchip picstart plus for DIP PICs.
I want to do In-circuit programming on SMD PICs now.
What are the best options?
I see Microchip have a "MPLAB REAL ICE" and the "MPLAB ICD 2".
Are these the best programmers to use and what else do I need.
Do I need any changes on my circuit side?
Thank you
Koossa
Hi, Koossa
Depends on the pinouts you use ... but 3M builds "pinthrough" test chip carriers for SMD devices ... just build an adaptator to suit you need. ( to buy from Farnell i.e.)
Microchip also sells ready to use adaptators ...
Alain
Alain
Thank you for your reply.
I want to program my SMD Pic while it is in the circuit.
I'm not that clued up with this stuff, but what will the adaptor do?
So,
ICD2 from Microchip
PicFlash2 from Mikroelektronika ...
are the ones I would recommend.
Alain
Thank you very much!!
Do I need any modifications on my circuit if I move over to in-circuit programming?
The ICSP used pins must be disabled from your circuitry just for programming ... you re-enable those PCB tracks after programming by using jumpers or, simpler by tin drops on the PCB side.
see here :
http://www.mikroe.com/pdf/picflash_manual_v5.pdf
It's the clearest document I know ...
Alain
Thank you very much!!
I really appreciate it!
By the way ...
Think ICD2 is the most powerful and will allow 16 and 32 Bits ICSP Pics programming AND Debugging with MPLAB ...
Only 8 bits with The PicFlash ... and no PbP debugging.
But cost is also different !!!
Alain
Will I be able to do PbP debugging with the ICD2?
This also explains ICSP. http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/e...Doc/51553E.pdf
You can also adapt you PICSTART into a ICSP. I use 6x1 headers that match the PICKIT2 on the PCB. Make the adapter DIP to cable for the PICSTART , use MCLR, ICSPDAT, ICSPCLK, and VSS from the PICKSTART. Power is provided at the PCB.
FOLLOW ALL OF THE ISOLATION GUIDELINES
Now you can use a PICKIT2 or the PICSTART.
My PICKSTART stays on the bench and my PICKIT goes on the road.
Thats my two cents :)
Thank you Dave.
Do I need the PICKIT2 to adapt the PICSTART into an ICSP?
Koossa
No, sorry I made it confusing.
All you need are the 4 wires from the PICSTART to the chip. Plus power at the chip.
You may want to read this.
http://www.picbasic.co.uk/forum/show...2&postcount=25
maybe this one too
http://www.auelectronics.com/Q8.htm
Thanks a Lot!!!