How to use For Next Loop to run sequence light ?

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- 29th August 2010, 10:18
Bracer

How to use For Next Loop to run sequence light ?

Code:

@ DEVICE pic16F628A, INTRC_OSC_NOCLKOUT, MCLR_OFF CMCON = 7 Counter var Byte Counter = 0 Routine: For Counter = 0 to 6 High PortB.Counter Next Counter pause 500 For Counter = 0 to 6 Low PortB.Counter Next Counter pause 500 GoTo Routine

Apparently:

Code:

High PortB.Counter

and

Code:

Low PortB.Counter

is giving me errors, I could have done this with no errors:

Code:

For Counter = 0 to 6 High Counter Next Counter

but this will be a PICBasic command and I will not be able to control PortA.

How do I use the For Next Loop to handle PortA too ?

Hi,

PortA.something ... something must be a CONSTANT ...

so, try indexing PortA

Code:

PortA.0[counter] = 1 ; OR HIGH PortA.0[counter]

Should compile fine.
Alain
- 29th August 2010, 11:31
Bracer

I've tried it, and it does compile :)

Unfortunately, when I put it in my circuit, only PortB.0 Blinks!
Ooo Nooooo!!!! :(

Code:

@ DEVICE pic16F628A, INTRC_OSC_NOCLKOUT, MCLR_OFF CMCON = 7 Counter var Byte SubRoutine: For Counter = 0 to 2 high PortB.0[Counter] high PortA.0[Counter] Next Counter Pause 500 For Counter = 0 to 2 Low PortB.0[Counter] Low PortA.0[Counter] Next Counter pause 800 Goto SubRoutine
- 29th August 2010, 11:42
rsocor01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bracer

I've tried it, and it does compile :)

Unfortunately, when I put it in my circuit, only PortB.0 Blinks!
Ooo Nooooo!!!! :(

Include this lines in your program

Code:

TRISA = 0 ' Make them all outputs TRISB = 0

Robert
- 29th August 2010, 12:33
Bracer

Thanks.

Ok Now all the LEDs light up.

BUT only PortB.0 and PortB.1 Blinks.

Again, this the code:

Code:

@ DEVICE pic16F628A, INTRC_OSC_NOCLKOUT, MCLR_OFF CMCON = 7 TRISA = 0 ' Make them all outputs TRISB = 0 Counter var Byte SubRoutine: For Counter = 0 to 2 high PortB.0[Counter] high PortA.0[Counter] Next Counter Pause 600 For Counter = 0 to 2 Low PortB.0[Counter] Low PortA.0[Counter] Next Counter pause 100 Goto SubRoutine
- 29th August 2010, 17:00
Acetronics2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bracer

Thanks.

Ok Now all the LEDs light up.

BUT only PortB.0 and PortB.1 Blinks.

Again, this the code:

Code:

@ DEVICE pic16F628A, INTRC_OSC_NOCLKOUT, MCLR_OFF CMCON = 7 TRISA = 0 ' Make them all outputs TRISB = 0 Counter var Byte SubRoutine: For Counter = 0 to 2 high PortB.0[Counter] high PortA.0[Counter] Next Counter Pause 600 For Counter = 0 to 2 Low PortB.0[Counter] Low PortA.0[Counter] Next Counter pause 100 Goto SubRoutine

Hi, Bracer

I suspect a RMW issue ... as HIGH and LOW already cares of driving inputs and outputs :rolleyes:

How much current do you send to your Leds ???

try to limit it to 5 mA per Led ... as a first try.

as a second try ...

Code:

@ DEVICE pic16F628A, INTRC_OSC_NOCLKOUT, MCLR_OFF CMCON = 7 TRISA = 0 ' Make them all outputs TRISB = 0 Counter var Byte SubRoutine: PORTA = PORTA | % 00000111 PORTB = PORTB | % 00000111 Pause 600 PORTA = PORTA & % 11111000 PORTB = PORTB & % 11111000 pause 100 Goto SubRoutine

a scheme of your circuit really would be welcome ...

Alain
- 30th August 2010, 00:44
Bracer

I am getting a

Code:

WARNING Line 20: Bad token "%". WARNING Line 21: Bad token "%". WARNING Line 24: Bad token "%". WARNING Line 25: Bad token "%". WARNING Line 24: 11111000 Numeric overflow, value truncated. (Test.pbp) WARNING Line 25: 11111000 Numeric overflow, value truncated. (Test.pbp)

When I copy and paste the code your exact codes.

You are right Acetronics, I am using a +6V, but I did try the manual "High PortA.0" way to manually set each pin and it works.
Every single pins are all functional, so it couldn't have been a pin damage issue.

The schematic is really empty, Pin 5 to the negative and Pin 14 to the positive,
PortB.0 ~ PortB.2 to LEDs.
PortA.0 ~PortA.2 to LEDs, that's all.
- 30th August 2010, 02:29
rsocor01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bracer

I am getting a

Code:

WARNING Line 20: Bad token "%". WARNING Line 21: Bad token "%". WARNING Line 24: Bad token "%". WARNING Line 25: Bad token "%". WARNING Line 24: 11111000 Numeric overflow, value truncated. (Test.pbp) WARNING Line 25: 11111000 Numeric overflow, value truncated. (Test.pbp)

When I copy and paste the code your exact codes.

You are right Acetronics, I am using a +6V, but I did try the manual "High PortA.0" way to manually set each pin and it works.
Every single pins are all functional, so it couldn't have been a pin damage issue.

The schematic is really empty, Pin 5 to the negative and Pin 14 to the positive,
PortB.0 ~ PortB.2 to LEDs.
PortA.0 ~PortA.2 to LEDs, that's all.

There is no space betweeen the % and the binaty number; Example: %00000111

Robert
- 30th August 2010, 09:28
Acetronics2

Hi, Bracer

sorry for the "space" ...

For your leds ... place a series resistor : 220 Ohms as a minimum @ 6v supply ...

I know some do not use resistors ... but it creates RMW issues !!!

You MUST keep current inside the specified limits ( ABSOLUTE limits: 25 ma - 100 mA per full port ) , but do not rely on the internal limitation ... or you'll get surprises !!!

Alain
- 30th August 2010, 14:52
Bracer

WOW Acetronics....
You are so cool!

Code:

Make PortA and PortB's 0~2 lights up. PORTA = PORTA | %00000111 PORTB = PORTB | %00000111 Make PortA and PortB's 0~2 lights Down. PORTA = PORTA & %11111000 PORTB = PORTB & %11111000

Completely works...wow...in just one line you have set 3 lights from PortB to light up...

It suddenly makes this whole "High PortB.0" look barbaric!
I don't exactly know "How" you set it, but I did try to experiment, I went ahead and try to make the light goes from the outside two lights to the inside one light, basically:

Code:

High PortB.0 High PortB.2 Low PortB.1 Pause 500 Low PortB.0 Low PortB.2 High PortB.1 Pause 500 Low PortB.0 Low PortB.2 Low PortB.1 Pause 500

But me...trying to "copy" your way, not knowing what I am doing, do this:

Code:

PORTA = PORTA | %00000101 PORTB = PORTB | %00000101 Pause 500 PORTA = PORTA & %00000010 PORTB = PORTB & %00000010 pause 500

Let's just say the lights acted weird, I have no idea what "|" in the code does either than it's probably "Or" ?
Not to mention "&" either than C's "And" ?

But they are single and not in pairs...some sort of bit shifters ?

Must trying to understand this concept...one line to control all Port Outputs....so powerful...but so mysterious to me...

Anyway thanks Acetronics, I use a 470 ohm for the LEDs under +6V :)
- 30th August 2010, 19:39
Acetronics2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bracer

But me...trying to "copy" your way, not knowing what I am doing, do this:

Code:

PORTA = PORTA | %00000101 PORTB = PORTB | %00000101 Pause 500 PORTA = PORTA & %00000010 PORTB = PORTB & %00000010 pause 500

PORTA = PORTA | %00000101 = Read PORTA and set to 1 ports A0 and A2

PORTA = PORTA & %00000010 = Read PORTA and clear ports A0 and A2

you use " | " ( OR ) to SET portspins and & ( AND ) to clear them ... but no mix allowed

you can try ...

Code:

PORTA = PORTA | %00000101 PORTB = PORTB | %00000101 . . . . Subroutine: PORTA = PORTA ^ %00000111 ' FLIPS the bits with a " 1 " PORTB = PORTB ^ %00000111 pause 500 GOTO Subroutine

see your manual " Bitwise Operators " section $4.16.17 ;)

Alain
- 31st August 2010, 09:40
Bracer

Thank you Acetronics, thanks to you, I now understand everything I need to understand for my Build from scratch Tricorder Project.

This is the note I have compiled based on what you have explained.

'Make them all outputs, Remember Pin 4, PortA.5 will always be Input Only
'And Pin 3, PortA.4 needs a pull up resistor.

'Understand that these two lines will make High, all Pins
'meaning the LEDs will ALL light up.
TRISA = 0 'Set all PortA Pins as Outputs
TRISB = 0 'Set all PortB Pins as Outputs

'Make All PortA and PortB's lights Down, the "&" here means "Clear".
PORTA = PORTA & %00000000
PORTB = PORTB & %00000000

Make PortA and PortB's .0 lights up, the "|" here means "Set".
PORTA = PORTA | %00000001
PORTB = PORTB | %00000001

[This is a powerful concept Bracer, with this you no longer need to do the:
High PortB.0 crap.
A single line to clear all and a single line to set all, the ONLY THING YOU MUST
take note is to line up your LEDs from PortB.7 to PortB.0 in your device instead
of 0 to 7, this is because as you can see, this one line code is backward, setting
the last digit to 1 actually set Port*.0 and %10000000 sets Port*.7 to high.
So to make it easier for you to visualize your
lights animations [I'm repeating myself here], set your LEDs on your device from
Port*.7 [Or whatever is the highest port number you use for output] to lowest.
]

[This also means that setting:
PORTA = PORTA | %00100000
is useless because PortA.5 [Pin 4] can only be use for input detection,
setting it to high means nothing.
]

You can see my Tricorder project here:
http://www.bracercom.com/wip/content...der/index.html

It's still very much in WIP but I will be sure to give you credit when I've come to the electronic part of the Tricorder.
- 2nd September 2010, 12:21
Acetronics2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bracer

You can see my Tricorder project here:
http://www.bracercom.com/wip/content...der/index.html

It's still very much in WIP but I will be sure to give you credit when I've come to the electronic part of the Tricorder.

Hi, Bracer

May be ... you should have a look to NOKIA graphic screens ...costless and ... marvellous color effects ...:)

Alain
- 3rd September 2010, 00:09
Bracer

NOKIA graphic screens with 16F628a ?

Wow...I have like no idea how...

I wouldn't even know how to begin with that.
- 5th September 2010, 01:55
Archangel

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