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- 21st October 2009, 19:45
MyBuddy

4550 osc

I'm a bit new with this chip and I'm having problems with the oscillator settings. Basically, I already have a program and circuit working with the chip and a 4MHz XT.

The problem is that when I replace the crystal with a 20MHZ HS nothing communicates anymore. Debug and SPI, to be exact.

I've changed my DEFINE OSC to 20 and made sure the right MHz and Type are selected in melabs programmer. Is there something else I am missing to get the serial ports back to normal speed?

I'm using MicroCode Studio - PicBasic Pro with the MeLabs USB Programmer.
- 21st October 2009, 22:51
Macgman2000

First we need some info....What chip body? What compiler version? Is it a 20Mhz crystal or resonator?

Nick
- 21st October 2009, 23:09
MyBuddy

18f4550 is the chip, 40 pin dip. I'm using PicBasic Pro 2.46. And it's a quartz crystal.
- 21st October 2009, 23:49
comwarrior

have you put capacitors between the oscilator pins and ground?
- 22nd October 2009, 00:07
MyBuddy

Yes, did that. 22pF

Reset is high, too.
- 22nd October 2009, 00:41
b1arrk5

The '4550 supports USB, and the oscillator section has a lot of options. Try the following;
asm
__CONFIG _CONFIG1L, _PLLDIV_5_1L & _CPUDIV_OSC1_PLL2_1L & _USBDIV_2_1L

__CONFIG _CONFIG1H, _FOSC_HSPLL_HS_1H & _FCMEN_OFF_1H & _IESO_OFF_1H

__CONFIG _CONFIG2L, _PWRT_ON_2L & _BOR_ON_2L & _BORV_2_2L & _VREGEN_ON_2L
__CONFIG _CONFIG2H, _WDT_OFF_2H
__CONFIG _CONFIG3H, _MCLRE_ON_3H & _LPT1OSC_OFF_3H & _PBADEN_OFF_3H & _CCP2MX_ON_3H
__CONFIG _CONFIG4L, _STVREN_ON_4L & _LVP_OFF_4L & _ICPRT_OFF_4L & _XINST_OFF_4L & _DEBUG_OFF_4L
endasm
define OSC 48 'core running at 48Mhz
DEFINE DEBUG_REG PORTA 'pin Porta.5 serial out to debug
DEFINE DEBUG_BIT 5
DEFINE DEBEG_BAUD 2400
DEFINE DEBUG_MODE 0 '0 = TRUE, 1 = INVERTED

This setup works with a 20 Mhz crystal. You will also find more information if you do a search here for 18f4550

Good Luck,
Jerry
- 22nd October 2009, 00:52
comwarrior

ok, cool, thaught i'd ask a stupid question...

i used the 18F4550 myself and i also use the same OSC so, i'll run through my settings, however, i'm using winpic800 with a JDM programmer...

OSC: HS oscillator, PLL enabled, HS used by USB
CPU system clock: 96MHz PLL dev 5
Oscilator selection: Devide by 5 (20MHz input)
Vbor: 2.7V
Brown-out restet: Enabled in hardware only
Watchdog: 1:32768
FCMEM enabled
IESO enabled
WDTEN enabled
PWRTEN disabled
CCP2MX enabled
PBADEN enabled
LPT1OSC enabled
MCLRE disabled
DEBUG disabled
STVREN enabled
LVP enabled
ICPORT enabled
XINST enabled
USBPLL enabled
VREGEN enabled

All CP's are disabled
All EBT's disabled
All WRT's disabled

Acording to oshonsoft's pic18 simulator IDE the BASIC code for those options are asfollows...

Code:

Define CONFIG1L = 0x3C Define CONFIG1H = 0xCE Define CONFIG2L = 0x17 Define CONFIG2H = 0x1F Define CONFIG3L = 0x00 Define CONFIG3H = 0x07 Define CONFIG4L = 0xE1 Define CONFIG4H = 0x00 Define CONFIG5L = 0x0F Define CONFIG5H = 0xC0 Define CONFIG6L = 0x0F Define CONFIG6H = 0xE0 Define CONFIG7L = 0x0F Define CONFIG7H = 0x40

Hopefully, some of that will help...
if not, can you post a screen shot of your programmers config options screen?

Thanks
- 22nd October 2009, 17:32
MyBuddy

Hmm, I was hoping I wouldn't have to learn what a .asm file was...:mad:
- 22nd October 2009, 18:25
mackrackit

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyBuddy

Hmm, I was hoping I wouldn't have to learn what a .asm file was...:mad:

What ASM?
This is all about setting the configs like you would with any PIC.
- 22nd October 2009, 20:00
mackrackit

MyBuddy,
I just noticed that you are new here. Welcome.

Here is a must read.
http://www.picbasic.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=543
- 22nd October 2009, 20:06
comwarrior

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyBuddy

Hmm, I was hoping I wouldn't have to learn what a .asm file was...:mad:

This has nothing to do with ASM (assembler)
Take a screen cap of your programmer screen with all your osc config options on and i'll look see if you have anything set wrong...

:edit
I've just sorted out my fuse options for use with MPASM... Been meaning to do them but couldn't previously be botherd...

Now, assuming your using MPASM for compiling this needs to be the first line in your BAS file...

Code:

@ __config _PLLDIV_5_1L & _CPUDIV_OSC1_PLL2_1L & _USBDIV_2_1L & _FOSC_HSPLL_HS_1H & _FCMEN_ON_1H & _IESO_ON_1H & _PWRT_ON_2L & _BOR_ON_2L & _BORV_2_2L & _VREGEN_ON_2L & _WDT_ON_2H & _WDTPS_32768_2H & _MCLRE_OFF_3H & _LPT1OSC_ON_3H & _PBADEN_OFF_3H & _CCP2MX_ON_3H & _STVREN_OFF_4L & _LVP_OFF_4L & _ICPRT_OFF_4L & _XINST_ON_4L & _DEBUG_OFF_4L & _CP0_OFF_5L & _CP1_OFF_5L & _CP2_OFF_5L & _CP3_OFF_5L & _CPB_OFF_5H & _CPD_OFF_5H & _WRT0_OFF_6L & _WRT1_OFF_6L & _WRT2_OFF_6L & _WRT3_OFF_6L & _WRTB_OFF_6H & _WRTC_OFF_6H & _WRTD_OFF_6H & _EBTR0_OFF_7L & _EBTR1_OFF_7L & _EBTR2_OFF_7L & _EBTR3_OFF_7L & _EBTRB_OFF_7H

The list of fuse options avaliable for MPASM can be found in C:\Program Files\Microchip\MPASM Suite
The INC file for the pic contains the fuse options, so for the 18F4550 you need to open the file C:\Program Files\Microchip\MPASM Suite\P18F4550.INC in notepad or Microcode studio or with MPLAB...
If you don't know what the options are for, thats where searching the datasheet comes in...
- 23rd October 2009, 05:07
MyBuddy

Quote:

Originally Posted by mackrackit

What ASM?
This is all about setting the configs like you would with any PIC.

I was confused with the post from b1arrrk, my bad.

I think this pic is overly complex ... or I'm overly simple.

Alright, I'm understanding a little better the fuses, but they look exactly like the options in the MeProg Programmer for this chip ... I'm fairly sure I've tried every possible combination of pertinent bits.

Comwarrior, I understand what you're saying now, but I am getting some funny errors now:

Code:

Symbol not previously defined (_MCLR) Argument out of range (not a valid config register address)

I'm guessing that second one is because of the first error. As for the first error, I don't get it... I copied the config bit from the .inc then pasted it over the @ line. Do I need to have line breaks after some point or something?
- 23rd October 2009, 05:13
MyBuddy

Another thing:

After I compile with the following config bits:

Code:

@ __config _PLLDIV_5_1L & _CPUDIV_OSC1_PLL2_1L & _USBDIV_2_1L & _FOSC_HS_1H & _FCMEM_ON_1H & _IESO_ON_1H & _PWRT_ON_2L & _BOR_OFF_2L & _BORV_21_2L & _VREGEN_ON_2L & _WDT_ON_2H & _WDTPS_32768_2H & _MCLRE_ON_3H & _LPT1OSC_ON_3H & _PBADEN_OFF_3H & _CCP2MX_ON_3H & _STVREN_OFF_4L & _LVP_OFF_4L & _ICPRT_OFF_4L & _XINST_ON_4L & _DEBUG_OFF_4L & _CP0_OFF_5L & _CP1_OFF_5L & _CP2_OFF_5L & _CP3_OFF_5L & _CPB_OFF_5H & _CPD_OFF_5H & _WRT0_OFF_6L & _WRT1_OFF_6L & _WRT2_OFF_6L & _WRT3_OFF_6L & _WRTB_OFF_6H & _WRTC_OFF_6H & _WRTD_OFF_6H & _EBTR0_OFF_7L & _EBTR1_OFF_7L & _EBTR2_OFF_7L & _EBTR3_OFF_7L & _EBTRB_OFF_7H

... the MeProg pops up, but I still have to change the config settings on that screen, such as the Oscillator type (it is on HSPLL instead of the HS I have config'ed in the above code).
- 23rd October 2009, 05:13
mackrackit

Maybe this will help. I set the configs in code so the *.inc is commented out.
Below is for a 4550 with a 4Mhx external clocking at 48

Code:

DEFINE OSC 48 @ __CONFIG _CONFIG1L, _PLLDIV_1_1L & _CPUDIV_OSC1_PLL2_1L & _USBDIV_2_1L @ __CONFIG _CONFIG1H, _FOSC_HSPLL_HS_1H @ __CONFIG _CONFIG2H, _WDT_OFF_2H & _WDTPS_512_2H @ __CONFIG _CONFIG3H, _PBADEN_OFF_3H & _MCLRE_OFF_3H @ __CONFIG _CONFIG4L, _LVP_OFF_4L & _ICPRT_OFF_4L &_XINST_OFF_4L

MCLR nope, MCLRE...
- 23rd October 2009, 16:32
comwarrior

Quote:

the MeProg pops up, but I still have to change the config settings on that screen, such as the Oscillator type (it is on HSPLL instead of the HS I have config'ed in the above code

HS with PLL enabled is ok... PLL allows USB to be used at diferent clock speed to the main CPU, it's safe to use with PLL even if you don't use USB