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texas5
- 14th October 2008, 16:57
hi,can someone tell me why x-10 technology use a 120khz of frequency to burst into a ac power line???

ardhuru
- 16th October 2008, 07:20
hi,can someone tell me why x-10 technology use a 120khz of frequency to burst into a ac power line???

As against some other frequency? Or why modulate it at all?

If its the 2nd question, its for a similar reason why an IR signal is modulated; it travels better. Also, the relatively high frequency is easier to discriminate from the mains, jumps over inductive / capacitive couplings better and is easier to detect.

I notice an interest in X10 after a long time; in the past, with valuable help from Darrel and Dave Houston I have done some work with X10. If you have any specific difficulties, just ask, and I'll see how I can help.

Regards,

Anand

dhouston
- 16th October 2008, 19:27
hi,can someone tell me why x-10 technology use a 120khz of frequency to burst into a ac power line???Because they could?

X-10 began more than 30 years ago and initially targeted the US market. Electric utilities, going back as far as the 1920's used "ripple control" which used (mostly) lower RF frequencies over their distribution lines for control and feedback. They probably wanted to avoid any conflicts with this. Household wiring acts like an antenna - rebroadcasting the RF into the air. The AM radio band starts at 535kHz and there are other important navigation bands bands below that to be avoided. http://www.jneuhaus.com/fccindex/10_khz.html#300_KHz Finally, there were not a lot of sophisticated ICs around in those days so they needed a frequency compatible with the discrete components that were available - the higher the frequency, the more difficult at that time.

This is all conjecture on my part but you can ask someone who was involved. Dave Rye is a VP at X-10 who was around at the beginning. I've found him to be accessible and helpful. I won't give you his email address as I'd hate to see him inundated with spam but you can probably find it with a Google search on "Dave Rye X-10".

aratti
- 19th October 2008, 21:00
Read the explanation at the link below

http://www.x10.com/support/technology1.htm