New to PICBASIC Pro and have simple question

[plyrathrt]

I am using Picbasic Pro to program a 16F684. What I am trying to do it get pins on portA other than porta.3 to be a input and see a high or low signal. I don't know why this isn't working and I am SURE something will point out the obvious reason it's not. Anyway here is the code below. When I put "high" to porta.0 it doesn't flash the led. I know everything working right because if I just set portc to outputs and set it to flash the same led its fine.

Any help would be great. Thanks!

TRISA=%111111
TRISC=%000000
PORTC=%000000

MAIN:
IF PORTA.0 = 1 THEN
PORTC.0 = 1
PAUSE 60
PORTC.0 = 0
PAUSE 60
ENDIF
GOTO MAIN

[ronjodu]

What you're trying to do is read a digital input on RAx. This note from page 33 of the manual points you in the right direction. The RAx pin must be configured as a digital input
first.
"Note: The ANSEL and CMCON0 registers must
be initialized to configure an analog
channel as a digital input. Pins configured
as analog inputs will read ‘0’."




Hope this helps...

[plyrathrt]

Is "high" or "low" considered a digital signal? I assumed it was analog.

[tump]

yes
high = 1
low = 0

Thats digital 10101010

[plyrathrt]

I knew it was simple. It works fine now. Guess I should have tried setting it for digital before posting..

Anyone know of a good thread or link to a site that has a good explanation of the "button" command, how it works, and examples?

I would really like to use this command instead of using high and low. That way I don't have to put resistors to a ground for every input pin in my project.

[Acetronics2]

[QUOTE=plyrathrt;46409]

Anyone know of a good thread or link to a site that has a good explanation of the "button" command, how it works, and examples?

> plenty of downloads Here !!! everything is good to learn as it's PbP fully compatible !!! :

http://www.parallax.com/Education/ProductInformation/StampsInClassTutorials/tabid/535/Default.aspx

I would really like to use this command instead of using high and low. That way I don't have to put resistors to a ground for every input pin in my project

> High and low apply to Outputs ... no link to "Button" function !!!

You'll always have to use pull up/down resistors for inputs whatever the way you read them .... yesss, that's it !!!

Alain

[plyrathrt]

I didn't want to start another thread for this question.

Is there any way to take a signal coming in on one pin and output that same signal on another?

I don't know if the signal is digital or analog so it's not like I can just set it to high, low, or any puls commands.

Any idea how this can be done?

[peterdeco1]

Hi plyrathrt. Yes. There is a way for digital signals. You can change the ports to your liking.

LOOP:
INPUT PORTB.0
OUTPUT PORTB.1
LET PORTB.1 = PORTB.0
GOTO LOOP

[plyrathrt]

Ok that works but I think it's a pulse width signal. Just looping it works however there is a issue when I want to let the signal through and then wait (pause or pauseus) and then let a signal from another pin through. It will go crazy.

I tried to read the signal as if it was a pulse but it didn't work right. Example of how I wrote the code is below.

pulse var word
pulsin 3,1,pulse

main:
if gpio.5 = 1 then
pulsout 0,pulse
endif
goto main

This does not work. Could it be the pulse width is too big for a 4mhz osc? I defined it to 8 and still had the issue.

[Acetronics2]

Hi, Ply rat

PULSIN has a time-limit ... ( see DEFINE PULSIN_MAX ) and returns 0 if this time limit is reached.

So, you must stay within those limits ... (default 65535 counts = 0.65535 sec @ 4 Mhz)

Take care : that applies to the High OR Low state of your pulse !!!

What pulse length ( or signal ) do you want to catch ???

Could you explain a bit more what you want to build as a device ???

Alain

[plyrathrt]

Basicly I am trying to tie in a microcontroller do automate some functions on a piece of equipment. Each "button" has two contacts. 1 side of each tie in together. I originally though maybe this was a shared ground. It is aparently not.

So that shared trace goes to the is where a signal is sent to tell the equipment what to do. The other trace is the one with the signal on it.

When I use "let gpio.3 = gpio.1" and then tell it "high 1" it works but I can't get it to "pause" to try and send another function to it. I am basicly trying to create a macro. When I try and use the "pause" command it does functions that I never tied in to. This is why I think it is a pulse. ( I was cutting the signal off too early or too late)


Isn't the default for Pulsin's max 65535 @4mhz? If anything I would need to give it a high max not a lower one right?

[plyrathrt]

Still looking for some much needed help with the above question.

Thank you

[Pic_User]

I didn't want to start another thread for this question.

Is there any way to take a signal coming in on one pin and output that same signal on another?

I don't know if the signal is digital or analog so it's not like I can just set it to high, low, or any pulse commands.

Any idea how this can be done?

Hi plyrathrt,
If you want to switch an unknown (low frequency AC) or (DC signal), with a PIC, you could use a relay.
Your unknown signal would come in one contact, and you could chose when to switch it to the other contact(s).

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[Jasonce65]

I think you will probably still need a pull-up resistor in your design to get the PIC to see a high-to-low and low-to-high transition to get any of these commands to work.

If you wanted, for example portb.0 to be your input and portb.1 to be an output, then you'd:

'program the port so the correct pins are in or outs
'this makes bit 1 an input, all other pins are outputs
trisb = 1

START:
portb.1 = portb.0
GOTO START


If you wanted to do this across ports:

trisb = 255 'all of port b is inputs
trisd = 0 'all of port d is outputs

START:
portd = portb
GOTO START


or if you just want to do a single bit on each port:

START:
portd.0 = portb.1 'this makes bit 0 on port D reflect what is going on on portb bit 1


You could also flip-flop the bits of a port using a variable:

portBflipval VAR BYTE

START:
portBflipval.bit0 = portb.7
portBflipval.bit1 = portb.6
portBflipval.bit2 = portb.5
portBflipval.bit3 = portb.4
portBflipval.bit4 = portb.3
portBflipval.bit5 = portb.2
portBflipval.bit6 = portb.1
portBflipval.bit7 = portb.0

portd = portBflipval 'port d now has the value that is on port b, but flipped!!!



Also, if you wanted to track the status of an input, so your code doesn't, for example send out multiple codes:

buttonState VAR BIT

START:
if portb.0 <> buttonState then
buttonState = portb.0
if buttonState = 0 then HSEROUT ["Button 0 released and it's a zero!"]
if buttonState = 1 then HSEROUT ["Button 0 pressed and it's a one!"]
endif
goto START

I've found that this method is excellent for be-bouncing a button press... I don't know why but it works great, even with a hundred lines of code...


If your aim is to read an analog voltage and then send that out on one of the 8 bit ports, that should be easy. Although I havent worked with this yet myself.

[plyrathrt]

I used transistors to make it work but was hoping there was a way to use it with only the pic.

Once you use the "let" command how do you cancel it? That would make it so I would only need to use 1 transistor for the entire project. Example

PIC12F683

I could say
LET GPIO.0 = GPIO.1 'GPIO.0 IS INPUT AND GPIO.1 AS OUTPUT TO TRANSISTOR
HIGH 2 'SEND HIGH TO TRANSISTOR TO LET SIGNAL THROUGH
PAUSE 100 'WAIT 100MS
LOW 2 'STOP TRANSISTOR FROM LETTING SIGNAL THROUGH

NOW HOW DO i CANCEL THE "LET" COMMAND SO I CAN CONTINUE LIKE THIS

LET GPIO.3 = GPIO.1
HIGH 2 'SEND HIGH TO TRANSISTOR TO LET SIGNAL THROUGH
PAUSE 100 'WAIT 100MS
LOW 2 'STOP TRANSISTOR FROM LETTING SIGNAL THROUGH

[Jasonce65]

I would probably just turn the port on, wait and then turn if off:

if portb.0 = 1 then
portd.0 = 1 'turn on port d bit 0
PAUSE 100
portd.0 = 0 'turn it back off after 100 ms
endif

modifiying this idea with my variable makes it a one-shot deal, so the output only pulses once on the low-going transistion, but does nothing when the user releases the button.

buttonState VAR BIT

START:
if portb.0 <> buttonState then
buttonState = portb.0
if buttonState = 0 then 'user is pushing on button
portd.0 = 1
PAUSE 100
portd.0 = 0
endif
endif

Unfortunately all of the bits on a PIC are latching. So if you want them to be a one-shot blink, then you have to code them to do it. I would try to avoid using the HIGH and LOW commands, unless you intend to use the basic stamp compatability files. These can add some overhead to your compiled program that goes onto your chip.

The pause command also affects how the PIC performs in real-time as the world has to stop inside the pic for this command to execute.

[plyrathrt]

That's what I thought the best option would be but wanted to make sure.

Yeah I alway's use it by bit and create variables because sometimes Mouser runs out of chips I need and I have to get a near compatible one.

I also only use the PAUSEUS so that the pic doesn't go to sleep.

Thank you for your help. I will try and do it this way and maybe, just maybe, it will function as desired.

[Jasonce65]

keep in mind that if your're working with more than one input, one that is an "enable", for example, that you can use a logical operator to make some magic...


if portb.0 <> buttonState AND portd.3 = 1 THEN... etc.

In one case I needed to validate what was going on with a variable that came from the HSERIN and had to use some intense logic...

If (BtVar = 48 AND porte = 0) OR (BtVar = 49 AND porte = 1) OR (BtVar = 50 AND porte = 2) ... THEN...

This let me match the port e value to the character that came in on the serial port. Since Port e on an 16F877A is 3 bits, I needed to compare for all 8 values using this if-then. It's incredible what tis complier and the chips, for that matter can do!

good luck.
J.-