Jhong
- 19th December 2005, 10:49
Hi guys & girls.
I have been perusing this site for anumber of months - an invaluable resource.
I am currently in the process of building a wireless hand-held controller. The main components are as follows:
- PIC 16F876A (5V) (may add another, smaller micro, to deal with graphics, user interface, if necessary)
- Colour LCD panel (5V, backlight may draw up to 200mA when on)
- Wireless module based on Nordic nRF2401 (3.3V)
These all work together fine, but I am still powering it with a linear regulator and wall wart. I need this to be battery powered, and have "in-circuit charging" capability. I want the controller to be useable while it is charging. Small form factor would be a bonus, as would the use of common, relatively-easy-to-find components It seems my options are as follows:
- NiMH batteries. 3*1.2V = 3.6V. A boost regulator to step up to 5V, followed by a buck regulator, capacitor switcher, or a LDO regulator to step this down to 3.3V. This should also handle regular alkalines being inserted. Charging can be done with a resistor/diode within a few hours
- Li-Ion or Li-Po flat batteries. These look great, and the chance to make something with such a small form factor is alluring! But after reading lots of horror stories, I'm scared. Maxim and Microchip seem to have a few charging ICs which do the work, but I have never produced anything like this before -- are LiI batteries too dangerous for hobbyists to be playing with? The example schematics in the MCP73841 datasheet are clear enough (pick a few external components to comply with battery data sheet)-- but they all show a dedicated charging circuit, and make no mention of "in-circuit charging". Can the load still be connected to the battery when it is being charged thorugh such a controller? Since the charging IC measures and controls current sunk into the battery, I don't see how it could work if an external circuit were connected to the battery terminals.
Any alternatives, help, pointers, or personal experiences, would be much appreciated.
John
I have been perusing this site for anumber of months - an invaluable resource.
I am currently in the process of building a wireless hand-held controller. The main components are as follows:
- PIC 16F876A (5V) (may add another, smaller micro, to deal with graphics, user interface, if necessary)
- Colour LCD panel (5V, backlight may draw up to 200mA when on)
- Wireless module based on Nordic nRF2401 (3.3V)
These all work together fine, but I am still powering it with a linear regulator and wall wart. I need this to be battery powered, and have "in-circuit charging" capability. I want the controller to be useable while it is charging. Small form factor would be a bonus, as would the use of common, relatively-easy-to-find components It seems my options are as follows:
- NiMH batteries. 3*1.2V = 3.6V. A boost regulator to step up to 5V, followed by a buck regulator, capacitor switcher, or a LDO regulator to step this down to 3.3V. This should also handle regular alkalines being inserted. Charging can be done with a resistor/diode within a few hours
- Li-Ion or Li-Po flat batteries. These look great, and the chance to make something with such a small form factor is alluring! But after reading lots of horror stories, I'm scared. Maxim and Microchip seem to have a few charging ICs which do the work, but I have never produced anything like this before -- are LiI batteries too dangerous for hobbyists to be playing with? The example schematics in the MCP73841 datasheet are clear enough (pick a few external components to comply with battery data sheet)-- but they all show a dedicated charging circuit, and make no mention of "in-circuit charging". Can the load still be connected to the battery when it is being charged thorugh such a controller? Since the charging IC measures and controls current sunk into the battery, I don't see how it could work if an external circuit were connected to the battery terminals.
Any alternatives, help, pointers, or personal experiences, would be much appreciated.
John