to many redirects

[richard]

lester i have some forum issues

recently i started getting "to many redirects " error messages and "try clearing your cookies and browser history" suggestions
then "this site is unavailable" from this forum only.

using chrome on all devices

its now unusable on my phone and android pad , everything else is fine , laptop is now complaining too\

deleting browser history and cookies works exactly once then fails as per usual next time round

other browsers seem ok with it

[Ioannis]

I use Opera and as far as I know, this is chrome based.

But did not experienced any access problems.

Have also a laptop that is using only Chrome. Will test there and report back.

Ioannis

[Jerson]

Some web sites have an inssue of cloudflare blocking them. I use chromium and do not have any connectivity issues with this web site till now.

[Ioannis]

On my laptop with Chrome there is no issue.

Maybe Richard you had an update of antivirus or a plug-in of Chrome?

Ioannis

[Charlie]

I ran into this the other day. My provider's DNS was not working. I switched to Google's DNS so I could keep working and got the "too many redirects" message on this site and one other forum only. When the issue was fixed and I switched back to the provider DNS, the issue went away. YMMV

[Ioannis]

I have as primary DNS the routers address and secondary 8.8.4.4

Ioannis

[richard]

changing the dns from the router [isp locked in] default will be a total pain the change will not stick.
i just won't look at forum outside of the office anymore

[Charlie]

changing the dns from the router [isp locked in] default will be a total pain the change will not stick.
i just won't look at forum outside of the office anymore

DNS of 8.8.8.8 was also problematic. Certainly your choice to give up - but not sure what you want the forum to do to fix a problem basically caused by your personal configuration / gear.

[richard]

but not sure what you want the forum to do to fix a problem basically caused by your personal configuration / gear.

since its a new "feature" i was hoping that it was an oversight or a cookie issue that lester may have been able to ameliorate
in some way. it is only affecting this site after all

[Charlie]

since its a new "feature" i was hoping that it was an oversight or a cookie issue that lester may have been able to ameliorate
in some way. it is only affecting this site after all
I can understand that assumption, but it may not be only this forum, but rather this forum is the only location where you regularly go and see the issue. When I had the problem, it was this forum and RV.net. Other sites I tried worked properly.

[lester]

Richard,

In your browser that is giving the Too many redirects issue.

What happens if you

1) clear the browser cache
2) Clear cookies
3) open a private window

navigate to www.picbasic.co.uk/forum/

Do you still get the error message

Lester

[lester]

Investigation of the routing for a url request, shows that if you request

picbasic.co.uk

you get a maximum of two redirects, resulting in a hit on www.picbasic.co.uk/forum/ , so its not a circular loop of death and should not throw a too many redirects error


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[lester]

If however you request the forum directly, you will get no redirects

www.picbasic.co.uk/forum/

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[lester]

The status Codes related to 3XX Redirects:

300 Multiple Choice
301 Moved Permanently
302 Found
303 See Other
304 Not Modified
305 Use Proxy
306 Unused
307 Temporary Redirect
308 Permanent Redirect

[lester]

and for the 2XX Successful Responses
The 2xx Successful class of status code indicates that the client’s request was successfully received, understood, and accepted.

200 OK
201 Created
202 Accepted
203 Non-Authoritative Information
204 No Content
205 Reset Content
206 Partial Content
207 Multi-Status (WebDAV)
208 Already Reported (WebDAV)
226 IM Used (HTTP Delta encoding)

[lester]

Clear Chrome Data

This will delete your browsing history, cookies, and cached images and files.

This will fix the “too many redirects” error in most cases.

To clear your Chrome data:

On your computer, open Chrome.
At the top right, click More > More tools > Clear browsing data.
At the top, choose a time range.
To delete everything, select All time.
Next to “Cookies and other site data” and “Cached images and files,” check the boxes.
Click Clear data.


Disable Browser Extensions
If clearing your Chrome data doesn’t fix the “too many redirects” error, you might have a browser extension causing the problem.


To disable extensions on Chrome:

On your computer, open Chrome
At the top right, click More > More tools > Extensions
On the extension, you want to remove, click Remove
If you’re not sure whether an extension is causing the problem, you can disable all your extensions.

After doing so, enable them one by one to see which one is causing the problem.

Adjust Time And Date On Your PC
If you’re still seeing the “too many redirects” error, you might need to adjust your computer’s time and date.

This can be caused by an incorrect time zone setting or a problem with your internet connection.

To adjust your Windows computer’s time and date:

Open Control Panel
Click Clock, Language, and Region
Under the Internet Time tab, click Change settings
Uncheck the box next to Synchronize with an Internet time server
Click Update now
Try loading the website again after you adjust your computer’s time and date.

Clear DNS Cache
If you’re still seeing the “too many redirects” error, you can try clearing your DNS cache. This will delete any incorrect DNS settings and might fix the problem.


To clean your Windows PC DNS cache:

Open Command Prompt
Type ipconfig /flushdns and press Enter
Restart Your Computer
It is essential to ensure you’ve included the space between “ipconfig” and “/”; otherwise, the command won’t work.

[lester]

Richard, On Checking, Chrome allows 5 redirects, we are no where near close to that. So I'm guessing that you have a rouge file in your browser system.

There is nothing I can do at my end to "fix" the issue on your browser.

I have added no features or changes that would cause this error.

Lester

[lester]

Richard. On checking

melabs have a similar redirect sequence, Im interested to know, do you have issues if you direct your browser to :-

picbasic.com

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[richard]

I just cleared history and cookies again . So far so good I can quit and reload Chrome and all is good.
Previously it would work once then fail at next chrome session.
Thanks for looking at the issue

[richard]

Even still works after loging out and backin. Mind just boggles

[rocket_troy]

I get exactly the same thing. I've just accepted that it might take 20-30 attempts to open the forum page. It's been happening for a long time and only happens with this site. I'm also using Chrome.

Troy

[richard]

I changed url to picbasic.co.uk it now sort of works. Opening screen is rendered weirdly . After then click forum and it seems to be ok, chrome on Android doesn't like something about it still, login just hangs on opening screen

[Aussie Barry]

I too have been experiencing this "Too many redirects" phenomenon.
Using Chrome on a Windows 10 machine.

Cheers
Barry

[Ioannis]

A couple of days now, I have the same issue too!

Annoyong. It does not pass this no matter what!

And as other members state, only on this forum...

Ioannis

[Ioannis]

And all of a sudden it works again just fine...

What can I say?

Ioannis

[CuriousOne]

It is still here....

Seems like some kind of DDOS protection went wild :D

[Ioannis]

I confirm too that Chrome does not work anymore for this forum...

Ioannis

[pedja089]

Chrome, Brave same.... But not every time...

[Ioannis]

For a few seconds it may give you the imporession that all is fine. Then again the redirects re-establish...

Ioannis

[retepsnikrep]

I also get this too many redirects issue with latest version of Chrome.
Had it for at least a couple of months or so.

[CuriousOne]

It is not chrome issue at all. Happens in FF and IE too.
This is just forum hosting screwing up.
You can skip that "too many redirects" error, but still nothing won't load.

[Ioannis]

In Edge and Opera I have no problem. Have not tested Firefox yet.

Ioannis

[Charlie]

Most of December I was not able to get into the forum with this issue. It would work for a day or so, then not for a week or so and the last couple weeks of the year, not at all. I'm using Chrome. For the last several days, I have been able to get into the forum, but there do not seem to be any posts. I wonder if this issue has effectively killed the forum (and mortally wounded PBP). Certainly I was about to remove it from my shortcut list, and I tend to be slow to do things.

[Charlie]

And right after the above post - no access again. I launched Edge and was able to get in to make this post.

[Ioannis]

Same here too with Chrome. All other browsers work OK for me except Chrome (I am not very fond of this browser...).

Usually I prefer Opera. It is very strange that Opera works OK having Chrome as main core.

Ioannis

[HenrikOlsson]

I access the forum from 3-4 different computers, all running Windows, all using Edge and I've never seen this. (as far as I know Edge is also based on Chrome)
I know this is no comfort for those experiencing the problem but it might help troubleshooting.

[richard]

I wonder if this issue has effectively killed the forum (and mortally wounded PBP).

it certainly has not interfered with online gambling, dodgy black-market drugs and girlie pic spammers.
but it does make forum access from my android things nonfunctional and atpia

[Ioannis]

Regarding the spam we try asap to zap them. Unfortunately this specific problem is beyond my knowledge and skills.

As Richard marked, never the drugs, porn or lighter spam activities have problems sneaking in forums, mails sites... Nasty bastards....

Ioannis

[mpgmike]

At least the porn spam so far has just been links and not embedded images -- at least what I've zapped.

[Ioannis]

I think this is the case. Fortunatlely just links so far.

Hope the problem with the redirects will not spread to other browsers too.

Ioannis

[retepsnikrep]

I can also confirm the forum still does not work with Chrome.

I have to use Edge to use this site. :(

[Jerson]

I use chromium on Linux and face no problems till now. Occasionally, I have the odd problem of being unable to zap spammers as the thread shows but will not be zapped. Then, I clear cache, reload the page and the zapping happens.

I am suspecting a browser hijack has got installed on the affected machines.

[richard]

the rot is setting in, edge is now throwing the odd to many redirects too.

[Jerson]

If it's not too much to try, I would burn any Linux ISO to a pendrive, boot it up and try browsing through that. It might help to identify the cause and will not disturb your existing setup in any way.

[Ioannis]

Just logged in by Edge since on my home laptop I have Edge and Chrome. Edge still works for me. Chrome still does NOT work...

Ioannis

[richard]

my laptop upgraded edge yesterday to ver 6 or some such thing, and it's happening often now



I would burn any Linux ISO to a pendrive, boot it up and try browsing through that.
no way hosay, its this site and this site only

[Ioannis]

Agree. Too complicated for me too.

Ioannis

[HenrikOlsson]

Today my desktop machine greeted me with a new version of Edge and I can no longer reach the forum from it. To many redirects.

I'm typing this on my laptop, which do have updates pending so I guess it's just a matter of time until it too forces a new version of Edge on me.

It wouldn't surprise me if this has something to do with all the advertising on the site.

[richard]

It wouldn't surprise me if this has something to do with all the advertising on the site.

i don't think so, this link has the same issue and advertising is not evident
http://www.picbasic.co.uk/forum/

dr google says its a hosting issue

it has taken me back to chrome to post this, with much difficulty i point out; edge is now unable to even reach the picbasic home page.
hoping the notifications still work, i have run out of ways to get here easily and can't see me putting up with jumping though all the hoops frequently.

[tumbleweed]

I use Firefox on both Windows and android.
No problems.

Can't say the same about Chrome.

[richard]

why do computers always want to correct things for us even if the don't need to be

http://www.picbasic.co.uk was the link i tried to post that now fails too

ps.
using chrome
make sure no browsers instances are running of any sort
run chrome
goto above link
login there
then select forum
that works mostly , the first attempt fails every time

pps; edge is a no go for the whole site now


what a circus !!!

[Ioannis]

Just tried EDGE Version 109.0.1518.55 (Official build) (64-bit) and works OK on my Desktop PC.

Also Opera and Firefox.

Only Chrome has problem for me.

Ioannis

[Charlie]

Maybe the redirects are from certain ads. Otherwise it's hard to explain why the problem sometimes happens for a few days and then is fine for a few days .. then broken again! Chrome does handle ad inserts differently.

[Ioannis]

Kind of funny. Ads are from google, Chrome from google too. But those two cannot go along together!

Ioannis

[lappy1]

Just tried EDGE Version 109.0.1518.55 (Official build) (64-bit) and works OK on my Desktop PC

Hmm , my browser is also Microsoft Edge Version 109.0.1518.55 (Official Build) (64-Bit)

Same version but different behavior :confused:
I always have to clear the cookies before I can access the forum :mad:

[Ioannis]

OK, now my EDGE also has the same redirect problem...!

Ioannis

[lappy1]

Hello @all

did a Edge-update to version 109.0.1518.61
Looks good , the redirects are gone at the moment.

lappy1

[Ioannis]

Yes, that is the latest Edge but sooner or later will stop working...

Ioannis

[lester]

I have made some changes. They may help resolve this issue.

[Ioannis]

No difference on Chrome. On Edge seems to work.

Ioannis

[HenrikOlsson]

Doesn't work on my main machine (with Edge). I keep postponing the update(s) on the laptop I'm writing this on (which is currently running Edge version 108.0.1462.46) as I suspect I won't be able to reach the forum if I allow it to update. I've only experienced the issue with this particular site/forum.

[Ioannis]

Indeed, updating Edge does not access the forum anymore...

The only browser that works is Opera. Which is not that bad. Has also that adv switch that kills every adv on YouTube! I like it alot!

Ioannis

[tumbleweed]

Did you miss post 50?

[richard]

Did you miss post 50?

do you think its ok that you have to install a special browser just to access this site ? i don't
how long will it be till firefox updates ? then what ?

[mpgmike]

I'm using Safari on a Mac and have no issues.

[tumbleweed]

do you think its ok that you have to install a special browser just to access this site ?
You mean like Chrome?

[Ioannis]

Did you miss post 50?

My bad. Tested and also works. For now…

Ioannis

[lester]

I have been looking at this issue.

I ahhve made several changes to the DNS to avoid DNS redirects.
There are redirects to HTTPS that I cannot avoid

However I am unable to reproduce the issue.

I would be interested to understand if when browsing to this site, you

1) select "Remember Me" when logging in <----- you should do this

2) After logging and and selecting "Remember Me"

you subsequently browse direct to http://www.picbasic.co.uk/forum/forum.php

NOT directly to

www.picbasic.co.uk


If someone could try doing that and let me know if its still an issue.

Lester

[Ioannis]

On Edge and Chrome, I tested direclty (as always do) the link http://www.picbasic.co.uk/forum/forum.php and result is the same.

Also the Remember me is checked. In either case I cannot login to logout and then test the Remember me again. I am still logged in but seeing too many redirects anyway.

Ioannis

[richard]

it's a moving feast. incognito [edge inprivate window] gives greatest chance of success now

[Ioannis]

For me it does not work in either mode. In private it even takes forever to show the dreadful message...

Ioannis

[lester]

Since I cannot reproduce the issue at present.

I just made another change to the way the url request is handled when visiting the forum, does the issue persist?

[lester]

Do you see the same issue if visiting dt.picbasic.co.uk ??

[Ioannis]

On http://www.picbasic.co.uk/forum/forum.php no change.

The dt.picbasic.co.uk works OK though only on chrome not on Edge!

Ioannis

[Ioannis]

The forum is on Https and dt.picbasic.co.uk on http ? Is that correct?

Ioannis

[Ioannis]

I am sorry, but after my first on http://dt.picbasic.co.uk/ (Chrome) it stopped working that too.

So it seems after the first visit, none sites work anymore on Chrome and Edge.

Ioannis

[lester]

OK, Im going to turn off CDN temporarily to see if that affects the issue

pleasev let me know if you see any improvement

[Ioannis]

Now Chrome says for both picabsic.co.uk and dt.picbasic.co.uk:

This site can’t be reached
www.picbasic.co.uk took too long to respond.
Try:

Checking the connection
Checking the proxy and the firewall
Running Windows Network Diagnostics
ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT



This site can’t be reached
dt.picbasic.co.uk took too long to respond.
Try:

Checking the connection
Checking the proxy and the firewall
Running Windows Network Diagnostics
ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT

On Edge I can access dt.picbasic.co.uk but not forum:

Hmmm… can't reach this page
www.picbasic.co.uk took too long to respond
Try:

Checking the connection
Checking the proxy and the firewall
Running Windows Network Diagnostics
ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT

[Ioannis]

On Opera no delays are noted and have no firefox here to test.

Ioannis

[Ioannis]

Now also dt.picbasic .co.uk is lost.

Ioannis

[tumbleweed]

I'm unable to get at either site using Firefox now.

Had to use IE11

[lester]

OK, that did not work !

I have re instated CDN

Im really surprised it had such a detrimental effect.

At present i'm at a loss as to how to resolve this issue without making some major chnages to the server / site.

I'm seeing many people with the same issue. The redirect number is hard coded into the browser - i think.

Our site does not - should not - redirect more than 1 time.

It seems there is a loop being initiated somewhere. but at present i cannot see where.

I cannot reproduce the issue on any machine with any browser !

[Ioannis]

It is really strange that you cannot see the problem locally.

Maybe you have an earlier browser version?

Ioannis

[lester]

im currently using
Firefox 109.01
Safari 13.1.2
Brave 1.46.153 built on (Chromium 108.0.5359.128)

[lester]

I guess the solution is to migrate to Vbulletin cloud or Vbulletin hosted.

:{ too much work. I simply dont have the spare hours.

[Ioannis]

I understand that you use a MacOS system, right?

Well, I found now an old Firefox, version 109.0 that works perfectly on Windows. But right now it did an update and needs me to restart. Will do that and report.

Ioannis

[Ioannis]

OK, this reply is from a Firefox 190.01 version.

Seems to work OK.

But on this PC, Edge 109.0.1518.70 (Official build) (64-bit) does not work.

Neither Chrome.

Just downloaded Brave. Unbelievable!!! Brave also has a problem, even without been logged in!!! And also takes forever to load...

Ioannis

[Ioannis]

Today I tried again Chrome and Edge. It takes too long to .... time out finally!

Isn't that very strange?

Ioannis

[lester]

Regarding the too many redirects issue. I have spent some time looking into this.

First off, I cannot reproduce it. I am testing from outside of my own network, connecting via a 4g service provider, using Firefox and safari.

I have traced the route of URL requests and see only 2 redirect

Browsing to picbasic.co.uk you are redirected to picbasic.co.uk/forum
and then when using the forum you are directed to picbasic.co.uk/forum/

Browsing direct to picbasic.co.uk/forum will result in a redirect to picbasic.co.uk/forum/

Browsing to piucbasic.co.uk/forum/

results in no redirects.

as far as I understand, there must be somewhere a redirect from within the forum to picbasic.co.uk - which will then result in the redirect loop

I cannot find this at the moment - I will continue to look into this issue

[Ioannis]

Have not Safari at the moment to test but Firefox works just fine here.

Chrome, Brave and Edge at the moment are not working.

Opera and Firefox do work.

Do you think that advs may have created the problem? I think this started after the google ads. By this I do not imply to disable them, just to find what is causing it.

Ioannis

P.S. To complicate things today Brave works just fine at the moment.

[lester]

Hello

No the ads cannot have any influence on this issue. The redirect issue happens before the site is opened,

[lester]

When trying different browsers it is very important to flush your browsing acche and remove all cookies. else the new installation will pick up from the old installation and the probelm will persist for some days before the new browser installation refreshes.

Hope that makes sense

[Ioannis]

Yes it does. But the very strange is that I installed Brave the other day and the first site I visited was picbasic.co.uk/forum, obviously without being logged in and the error came immediatly.

Today it tested OK. Cannot explain that.

Tried many times to completely clear everything from cache, cookies, history and temp files in vain.

Ioannis

[retepsnikrep]

Yes till still same problem here in UK with Latest Chrome and Edge.
Even with flushed cookies etc it refuses to work for days, then starts working like now and I'm posting this via chrome.

I expect after I press submit for this post I will be locked out again with too many redirects to see any responses. :(

[Ioannis]

But this does not happen for the damn spammers!

Ioannis

[retepsnikrep]

Yes I was foiled by too many redirects after my last post.. :(

[lester]

Hello all

What is the current position re Too Many Redirects ?

[mpgmike]

I couldn't access the site for a couple days. I use Safari on a Mac and have never had issues, even when everyone else was. I'm back to getting on right away. Thanks for all your time and effort.

[richard]

What is the current position re Too Many Redirects
its back to mainly no go from chrome except in an incognito window, edge mostly ok randomly fails then a private window will work ok, no access possible from any of my android devices since latest samsung update.

[Jerson]

I was hit by the "too many redirects" problem on Friday through till Saturday. Nothing would work - flushed cache, cleared cookies for picbasic.co.uk, tried incognito mode. Then on sunday, I got a 404 and the website checker isitdown or similar says the problem is at my end. Later in the day, the website was accessible once more incognito, so, I did log in.

Weird!!

[lester]

I have removed a redirect from the base URL to the forum

If you visit http://www.picbasic.co.uk you will need to manually click the link to go to
http://www.picbasic.co.uk/forum

Its VERY difficult for me to test the effects of changes I make to resolve the TOO MANY REDIRECTS ISSUE

I cannot easily reproduce it.

I would welcome feedback on the performance of the site today.

Direct email is acceptable, if the site is unaccessible to you

thank you

Lester

[richard]

seems to be working ok with chrome this morning here , and edge

[rocket_troy]

I've just got through today AND for my 1st attempt :) This is the 1st time I've managed to get through for months.

Troy

[lester]

Good morning,is it OK to assume that the TOO MANY REDIRECTS issue is resolved - for the time being?The site should now be showing a padlock , though at this time we are not forcing the use of SSL

[richard]

looks good from my end , even android devices are happy

[Charlie]

I have discovered that if I post a message, then I will not be able to get back in for a few days. I'll try again with the latest changes.

[Jerson]

Good morning,is it OK to assume that the TOO MANY REDIRECTS issue is resolved - for the time being?The site should now be showing a padlock , though at this time we are not forcing the use of SSL

No, it doesn't show a padlock. On chromium, it shows an exclamation in a triangle alert - not secure.

[Ioannis]

On my end it shows padlock and confirms that the site is secure. Maybe Jerson you need once again to clear cache.

No Redirect problem on

Chrome
Opera
Edge
Brave
Firefox

But I noticed that when logging in first time, it shows a message and I have to refresh the page so that I am still logged in.

Ioannis

[lester]

It maybe that it will take a couple of hours for the changes to propagate. All browsers should pick up the Time to Live for this site and automatically refresh.I will touch nothing for a full 24hrs to ensure that the changes have time to take effect.

[Ioannis]

The message I get, the first time logging in, is this:

Message from your administrator - Lester
Invalid Redirect URL (https://www.picbasic.co.uk/forum/search.php?do=getnew&contenttype=vBForum_Post)

But I am indeed logged in despite this message. A refresh of the page or clicking any link proves that.

Beside the above, I think we are OK now. Hope others too are OK.

A big thank you to the boss.

Ioannis

[rocket_troy]

Definitely resolved for me. Gone from never getting through at all to (now) getting through every time.

Troy

[HenrikOlsson]

Seems better now.
Today, I got thru immediately. It does not seem to be https though, there's no padlock and the it says Not secure to the left of the addressbar on Edge Version 108.0.1462.95
Will try other machines later.

[Ioannis]

Try clearing the cache.

It definetly is secure with padlock.



Ioannis

[lester]

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If you exit the picbasic.co.uk page and clear your browser cache, Cookies and all site data. Close your browser. Re-Open and vist the site, you should see that the site is secure and running a certificate from a trusted CA ( cloudflare (https://www.cloudflare.com/en-gb/learning/what-is-cloudflare/)). The whole site is running behind cloudflare.

[lester]

9318
Just checking I can upload imges without problems.

Seems OK

Oh and this is how the server is secured.

We are secure to Cloudflare and Cloudflare secures to the end users browser.

[Ioannis]

Well, regarding pictures or other files, we now see this screen, that is not as easy as what used to be. And does not give you feedback if you did attached a file.

You have to submit your post and then confirm that a file was attached. No VBcodes or anything else.

Ioannis

[lester]

Hello, I am testing with https://www.whynopadlock.com My browser tests show a padlock and i'm receiving a good heathchceck from whynopadlock.com
Seems better now. Today, I got thru immediately. It does not seem to be https though, there's no padlock and the it says Not secure to the left of the addressbar on Edge Version 108.0.1462.95 Will try other machines later.

[Jerson]

Today, I see the padlock. Till yesterday, it was shown not secure.

[HenrikOlsson]

Yes. today the padlock is there with the same machine where it wasn't yesterday. Also tried another machine yesterday and it worked fine, padlock and all. Thank you Lester!

[pedja089]

All good now...
Thank you.