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FromTheCockpit
- 18th September 2012, 19:39
I have been asked by someone to provide an LED Dimming circuit. Currently there are 21 LEDs @ 1Watt (12V) each. The LEDs currently are just being switched on or off. Since I have not done anything like this at such wattage before, I would like to request some help in deciding how to drive them.

I am considering driving it using 16F877A. I will use HPWM output for this, but I would like to ask

What frequency should be used?
What should I use to drive the LEDs, a powerful Mosfet or something else is there in the market for this purpose?


I will keep updating my questions here as I will go along. If mosfets can be used then I would like to ask which one is recommended. Searching the internet I found some mosfets which are capable of 60Amp to 80Amp. Will these be a wise choice? Will heatsink be required?
Thanks

dhouston
- 18th September 2012, 20:24
This link might give you some ideas.
http://www.opensourcepartners.nl/~costar/leddimmer/

Ioannis
- 19th September 2012, 09:03
If it will be for one LED and low current, you may get away with a MosFet or similar.

But for 21 LEDs, I think you should consider the power loss in heat.

I am currently experimening with devices from ZMDI that are sold by MOUSER.

I test the boost current regulator ZSLS7025 that I need to power 25 watt LED at 720mA and about 36 volt from a 12-24 volt dc input and with Dimming capability.

This company makes such devices either for boost or buck. Have a look at this link:

http://www.zmdi.com/products/led-drivers/

Ioannis

sayzer
- 21st September 2012, 19:27
If you put them in series, it will make 21 LEDs x 12V = 252Volts, correct?

If yes, and you are in Euro zone with 220VAC line, then convert 220VAC to DC, and drive them with a single mosfet only with 12F683 pwm output dimmed.

You will get some heat due to voltage difference but "I think" it can be taken away from the mosfet with a small size cooler.

Ioannis
- 21st September 2012, 19:41
220x1,4=308Volt

308-252=56Volt

56volt*0.084mA=5Watts. This must be dissipated not on the mosfet only but on a resistor too. Otherwise LEDs may get overloaded.

Not much, but not efficient either.

Also there will be live part if this is of concern.

Ioannis

sayzer
- 22nd September 2012, 05:33
220x1,4=308Volt

308-252=56Volt

56volt*0.084mA=5Watts. This must be dissipated not on the mosfet only but on a resistor too. Otherwise LEDs may get overloaded.

Not much, but not efficient either.

Also there will be live part if this is of concern.

Ioannis

220VAC * 1.27 = 279.4 Volt DC

279-252 = 27

27 * 0.084 = 2.26 watts

not bad with your approach.

Ioannis
- 24th September 2012, 09:45
Sayzer, what is the 1.27?

Ioannis

sayzer
- 24th September 2012, 16:04
I know what it is but not sure if I can explain it correctly.


May be, Alain can give a hand here and explain it in technical and understandable terms.

You considered 308VDC using full bridge rectifier (and elec-cap), right?
Have you actually measured it?

mackrackit
- 24th September 2012, 22:26
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_mean_square

Ioannis
- 25th September 2012, 09:27
So, I insist on sqr(2), meaning x1,41 of the rms voltage.

Ioannis

sayzer
- 3rd November 2012, 16:41
ok.

First, we multiply AC voltage by 0.9.
then, we multiply the result by 1.41.

There, you have the result for DC voltage.

In our case here,
we muliply 220VAC by 0.9 = 198
then we multiply 198 by 1.41 = 279VDC.

This calculation is for full bridge rectifier with an elec-cap.

rmteo
- 4th November 2012, 00:31
First, we multiply AC voltage by 0.9.


Why?? .....