fuel flow sensor?

[droptail]

I want to make a mpg display for an older vehicle with carburation. Any sources for getting a fuel flow sensor?

Thanks,
James

[mistergh]

Hi James,
there are some finished fuel meter available (some are made for boat engines).
Sensors for gas are not found easily, check McMillan www.mcmflow.com , they have what you need but not inexpensive. Does your old car have a gas return line (carburator to tank)?

[droptail]

Hi James,
there are some finished fuel meter available (some are made for boat engines).
Sensors for gas are not found easily, check McMillan www.mcmflow.com , they have what you need but not inexpensive. Does your old car have a gas return line (carburator to tank)?

Thanks for the reply. McMillan is USD$200, a little pricey for what I was looking for. No return lines for gravity feed older fuel systems.

[Byte_Butcher]

Once apon a time (late 80's?) certain models of Ford cars with carburetors had an external fuel flow sensor in line with carburetor. The sensor was used for a onboard gas mileage calculator...

I had a GF years ago who had a Ford Capri (I think it was a Capri) with the 2.6L V6 and it had the mileage calculator and fuel flow sensor.

Maybe you could still score one at the auto parts store or wrecking yard.

[droptail]

Once apon a time (late 80's?) certain models of Ford cars with carburetors had an external fuel flow sensor in line with carburetor. The sensor was used for a onboard gas mileage calculator...

I had a GF years ago who had a Ford Capri (I think it was a Capri) with the 2.6L V6 and it had the mileage calculator and fuel flow sensor.

Maybe you could still score one at the auto parts store or wrecking yard.

Good lead, didn't know that. I will pursue.

Thanks

[Gusse]

At least Conrad.de (http://www1.conrad.de/scripts/wgate/zcop_b2c/?~template=pcat_area&p_load_area=0231810&p_selected_area=0231810&zhmmh_area_kz=13&navi=mitte) sell fuel meters at reasonable price.

Here is one example of fuel meter circuit: Fuel Meter by Possi (http://www.possi.de/spritmesser/spritmesser.html)
Used fuel meter: Fuel meter (DURCHFLUSS-IMPULSGEBER INDUKTIV POM) (http://www1.conrad.de/scripts/wgate/zcop_b2c/~flNlc3Npb249UDkwV0dBVEU6Q19BR0FURTAxOjAwMDAuMDBlN S5lOTRhMmJlYSZ+aHR0cF9jb250ZW50X2NoYXJzZXQ9aXNvLTg 4NTktMSZ+U3RhdGU9MjAzMTQ0NjU5MA==?~template=PCAT_A REA_S_BROWSE&mfhelp=&p_selected_area=%24ROOT&p_selected_area_fh=&perform_special_action=&glb_user_js=Y&shop=B2C&vgl_artikel_in_index=&product_show_id=&p_page_to_display=DirektSearch&~cookies=1&zhmmh_lfo=&zhmmh_area_kz=44&s_haupt_kategorie=&p_searchstring=126055-44&p_searchstring_artnr=126055&p_searchstring_manufac_artnr=&p_search_category=alle&fh_directcall=&r3_matn=&insert_kz=&gvlon=&area_s_url=&brand=&amount=&new_item_quantity=&area_url=&direkt_aufriss_area=&p_countdown=&p_80=&p_80_category=&p_80_article=&p_next_template_after_login=&mindestbestellwert=&login=&password=&bpemail=&bpid=&url=&show_wk=&use_search=3&p_back_template=&template=&kat_save=&updatestr=&vgl_artikel_in_vgl=&titel=&darsteller=&regisseur=&anbieter=&genre=&fsk=&jahr=&jahr2=&dvd_error=X&dvd_empty_error=X&dvd_year_error=&call_dvd=&kna_news=&p_status_scenario=&documentselector=&aktiv=&gewinnspiel=&p_load_area=$ROOT&p_artikelbilder_mode=&p_sortopt=&page=&p_catalog_max_results=20) (in German)

I hope this will help you. I have my own plans to make fuel meter too. Still under planning stage...

BR,
-Gusse-

[droptail]

Gusse,

Thanks for the info. Is there a way for me to convert the website to English? Is it an analog output? How much is it?

James

[Acetronics2]

Hi,

I had bought, years ago, a really nice flow meter from JAEGER ( car meters, etc ...) ...

ref: 324160-01 CADEB

Was used for JAEGER Onboard car calculators of the 80's ...

Do not know if it is still manufactured.

Alain

[Gusse]

At least Conrad.de (http://www1.conrad.de/scripts/wgate/zcop_b2c/?~template=pcat_area&p_load_area=0231810&p_selected_area=0231810&zhmmh_area_kz=13&navi=mitte) sell fuel meters at reasonable price.

Here is one example of fuel meter circuit: Fuel Meter by Possi (http://www.possi.de/spritmesser/spritmesser.html)
Used fuel meter: Fuel meter (DURCHFLUSS-IMPULSGEBER INDUKTIV POM) (http://www1.conrad.de/scripts/wgate/zcop_b2c/~flNlc3Npb249UDkwV0dBVEU6Q19BR0FURTAxOjAwMDAuMDBlN S5lOTRhMmJlYSZ+aHR0cF9jb250ZW50X2NoYXJzZXQ9aXNvLTg 4NTktMSZ+U3RhdGU9MjAzMTQ0NjU5MA==?~template=PCAT_A REA_S_BROWSE&mfhelp=&p_selected_area=%24ROOT&p_selected_area_fh=&perform_special_action=&glb_user_js=Y&shop=B2C&vgl_artikel_in_index=&product_show_id=&p_page_to_display=DirektSearch&~cookies=1&zhmmh_lfo=&zhmmh_area_kz=44&s_haupt_kategorie=&p_searchstring=126055-44&p_searchstring_artnr=126055&p_searchstring_manufac_artnr=&p_search_category=alle&fh_directcall=&r3_matn=&insert_kz=&gvlon=&area_s_url=&brand=&amount=&new_item_quantity=&area_url=&direkt_aufriss_area=&p_countdown=&p_80=&p_80_category=&p_80_article=&p_next_template_after_login=&mindestbestellwert=&login=&password=&bpemail=&bpid=&url=&show_wk=&use_search=3&p_back_template=&template=&kat_save=&updatestr=&vgl_artikel_in_vgl=&titel=&darsteller=&regisseur=&anbieter=&genre=&fsk=&jahr=&jahr2=&dvd_error=X&dvd_empty_error=X&dvd_year_error=&call_dvd=&kna_news=&p_status_scenario=&documentselector=&aktiv=&gewinnspiel=&p_load_area=$ROOT&p_artikelbilder_mode=&p_sortopt=&page=&p_catalog_max_results=20) (in German)

I hope this will help you. I have my own plans to make fuel meter too. Still under planning stage...

BR,
-Gusse-

It seems that links were not working, lets try other way
http://www.conrad.de
Skip ads by clicking weiter in den Conrad Online-Shop >>
Left bar: Stichwortverzeichnis
Select letter: D
Select: Durchfluss-, Füllstands- Sensoren, Schal
There you'll find fuel meters.

And to go to directly to fuel meter page used in application
Type 126055-44 to Schnellsuche and you will go directly to right page.
Price is 39,31€.

I don't know how to translate web page to English (Google translate won't work), but I think you will get some idea about parameters just by looking specs (or use Google translator for single words).

It is analog output and will need an OP-amp. See more details from Possi's page.

BR,
-Gusse-

[droptail]

Acetronics, couldn't find anything on Jaeger.

Gusse, can you tell if this unit is OK for fuel? If so, I'd like to order one. I couldn't email them..

Thanks

[Gusse]

Acetronics, couldn't find anything on Jaeger.

Gusse, can you tell if this unit is OK for fuel? If so, I'd like to order one. I couldn't email them..

Thanks
This should be OK with fuel (Diesel, Benzin, Wasser, Öl).
Manufacturer web site: http://www.bio-tech-online.de (http://www.btflowmeter.com/en/products/flow-meters-lowflow-flowmeters-low-flow-turbine-flow-meter-fuel-flow-meters-diesel-fuel-flow-meter-watermeters-paddlewheel-flow-meter-oil-flow-meter-oilflowmeter-waterflowmeter-water-meters-turbineflowmeter-oilflowmeter/dfm-pom-pvdf-serie.html)

Can you specify max. flow range needed? You don't want to choke fuel flow with the meter.

Datasheet (http://www.produktinfo.conrad.com/datenblaetter/125000-149999/126055-da-01-ml-Durchfluss-Impulsgeber_POM_de-en.pdf)
Flow range: 0.025 - 2.5 l/min
Output: Sinus 0 - 20mV
Pressure: 10 bar

BR,
-Gusse-

[droptail]

0.250 l/min max flow rate required.
This unit is too large 96mm x 76mm for my motorcycle application.

Thanks

Edit: I selected wrong sensor. This one is good!! How much are they, and how to buy one?

Thanks

[Gusse]

0.250 l/min max flow rate required.
This unit is too large 96mm x 76mm for my motorcycle application.

Thanks

Edit: I selected wrong sensor. This one is good!! How much are they, and how to buy one?

Thanks
Information about the service and delivery costs (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww1.conrad.de%2Finfocent er%2Fislk%2Fislk.php&sl=de&tl=en&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8) (Translated by Google)

Goto fuel meter web page you would like to buy and press shopping basket icon.
Then click "Jetzt zum Warenkorb >>" to enter shopping basket
Next click "Weiter zur Kasse" icon
Now You have to register yourself to Conrad webshop.
Then following steps:
Dispatch address -> Payment method -> Payment -> Order confirmation
Fill in required information (in case you need translation, use Google translator).

or

Contact them by phone or email.

Conrad foreign service
For orders and service requests from abroad.
Monday - Thursday 8:00 to 16:30
Friday 8.00 - 14.00
Phone: +49 (0) 96 04 / 40-88 80
Fax: +49 (0) 96 04 / 40-86 60
E-mail: [email protected]

I hope this helped you. I think, I cannot help you more with buying one.

BR,
-Gusse-

[droptail]

Gusse,

I will call tomorrow and order one. Thanks for your help. I can let you know how my project goes.

[Gusse]

Gusse,

I will call tomorrow and order one. Thanks for your help. I can let you know how my project goes.

You are wellcome.
I'm interested to know how your project progress, because I have also plans to make similar fuel meter for my bike too.
I think I'll start my project somewhere during autumn-winter time, now it is time for riding with the bike :)
Of course I have continuous planning going on...

If it's OK for you to post fuel meter code to forum, that would be great.

BR,
-Gusse-

[droptail]

I leave for a road trip in the morning to Zion National Park, The Grand Canyon, Hoover Dam, and other places on my CBX. I wil have to order the flow meter when I return, the time difference makes it difficult to order. What bike do you have Gusse?

[Gusse]

Sounds great! I have once visited The Grand Canyon some couple of years ago, nice view and landscape. I'm a bit jealous to you.
I have Kawasaki ZZR-1200 and we will do our road trip during mid-summer (2weeks). Destination is Odessa in Ukraine (ashore of The Black Sea)
Have a nice trip!

BR,
-Gusse-

[mistergh]

Hi Guys,
Conrad in Germany (and some others) sends their stuff all over the world, EXCEPT USA & CANADA. It says so on their web site, page "Lieferung International" The page is available in english, just click on the icon "English". Here is the link:
http://www1.conrad.de/infocenter/lieferung_international.php?lang=en
When I need stuff from them, I have relatives in Germany get it for me. If anyone needs short translations from german to english, please let me know.