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    Default PIC Basic and Firewing Development Board

    Will a Firewing board work with PIC Basic Experimenter's/Student version?

    Will it work with Chuck Hellebuyck Demo version?

    If no. There is a Chipino development board at Chuck's site that works

    mostly the same.

    Thanks!

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    Default Re: PIC Basic and Firewing Development Board

    This might be of interest to you.

    Built in programmer, works with the free PBP student addition

    http://store.melabs.com/prod/DSTICK/DS1.html

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    Default Re: PIC Basic and Firewing Development Board

    MELabs D-Stick is a very well made product.

    All MELabs hardware that includes programmers and boards is 'Professional Grade'.

    The prices are the stumbling block for us.

    The programmers make sense FOR professionals that are billing out a couple grand a day

    when they go to customers site.

    We're lowly little hobbyists.

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    Default Re: PIC Basic and Firewing Development Board

    Back to the Firewing.

    If it works with Experimenters and Chuck versions that will fit in with our plans.

    Then we can compare PIC Basic Firewing language Swordfish and Proton.

    Firewing says it works with MPLAB so that opens door to CCS compiler and

    Byte Craft so that would be welcome.

    We're not to keen on Microchip XC8 compiler mostly because of Microchip unintelligible documentation.

    Yes we're busy beavers.

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    Default Re: PIC Basic and Firewing Development Board

    As far as I know, the Chipino uses a PIC16F886 , so anything that can compile code for that chip should work.

    The PIC18 version of the Firewing board comes with an 18F26K22.
    Firewing and Swordfish only work with the 18F series, and the free Firewing compiler only supports a few devices in the K22 series.

    As with the Chipino, anything that can compile code for an 18F26K22 can be used with the Firewing pic18 board... PBP, Proton, Swordfish, CCS, XC8, etc.

    Getting boards that have a bootloader to interface to anything other than their intended IDE can be a problem.
    If I were you I'd quit trying to mix and match so many different systems.

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    Default Re: PIC Basic and Firewing Development Board

    Let me sort out what you're saying. Firewing first.

    "anything that can compile code for an 18F26K22 can be used with the Firewing pic18 board"

    So. If it is programmed will that wipe out bootloader?

    Leads to: Then it is unusable as one click programmable in Firewing and Swordfish compiler?

    " bootloader to interface to anything other than their intended IDE can be a problem"

    Okay. That's what post is about. How is that problem solved?

    One way it looks like is to just wipeout boot loader and program Firewing as PIC that's on it.

    We can live with that.

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    Default Re: PIC Basic and Firewing Development Board

    About the Chjipino.

    Actually it was a mistake mentioning it in Firewing post.

    " Don't forget, this board will also work with ny Microchip 8 bit compiler. Some examples include the Microchip "C" Compiler, Swordfish, PICBASIC PRO or the PROTON Development Suite. "

    This is from Firewing page.

    A person could just go "Okay. I'll buy it. He says it will work."

    See where it says Gold on PIC Basic.

    That's what's bothering me.

    Does Firewing work with Chuck Hellebuyck and Experimenter's PIC Basic?

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    Default Re: PIC Basic and Firewing Development Board

    Decided to go ahead and get a Firewing 8 bit.

    Can use it with PIC Basic Great Cow Proton Firewing compiler and Swordfish.

    Compile with PICKit3 and blank PIC or bootloaded PIC it comes with.

    Use it with C compilers too.

    It's an Arduino Uno type so can see what that's about.

    Now it's a good investment!

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    Default 16F88 Supported in Free PBP Student and Free Chuck Hellebuyck Demo Versions

    Listed supported devices for both versions in Notepad file.

    Compared the two.

    That is the one and only device that is supported in both.

    Buy one device and test drive both versions.

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