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  1. #1
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    Default Mechanique Bootloader

    https://www.mecanique.co.uk/shop/ind...ory&path=25_68

    This is same company that wrote IDE Code Studio for PICBASIC PRO.

    In their Swordfish program their is integrated 'Serial Communicator'.

    I think I've seen that program on MELabs website or in PICBASIC PRO.

    Anybody know about that?

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    Default Re: Mechanique Bootloader

    I use it all the time. It allows you to customize it to the processor you are using, be it 1 com port or 2.
    Dave Purola,
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    Default Re: Mechanique Bootloader

    Dave

    Great!

    Have you added it to PICBASIC Pro Programmer list?

    I an cross referencing Bootloader supported chips and supported chips

    in PICBASIC Pro to what chips to get.

    Did you buy the bootloader.

    I can't even get Mechanique to respond to emails to buy it.

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    Default Re: Mechanique Bootloader

    Yes, I did buy it when I purchased MCSPX. I purchased both PBP3.0 and MCSPX from Melabs. As soon as I compile and assemble it starts the Boot Load process.
    Dave Purola,
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    Default Re: Mechanique Bootloader

    Too bad that loader does not recognize the 18FxxKxx series PICs.

    Robert
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    Dave

    Thanks!

    "Yes, I did buy it when I purchased MCSPX"

    What is MCSPX?

    Mechanique Bootloader sounds like it integrates with PBP3.0.

    Is that true that it installs itself into PBP3.0 and can be selected in 'Compile Program"?

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    Default Re: Mechanique Bootloader

    When you buy or download PBP you get an integrated development environment (IDE) called MicroCodeStudio or MCSX for short. There's a Standard version and a "Plus" version. You get the Standard version for free, you need to pay for the "plus" version. The plus version appends a P in the name so MCSPX for short. MicroCodeStudio is developed by Mecanique, PBP is developed by MeLabs.

    The bootloader (called Microcode loader) is not included in the free version of MicroCodeStudio.

    In the MCS(P)X you can install as many programmers you like, the Microcode Loader can be one of them. Pressing the Compile & Program button automatically compiles, assembles and then invokes the selected programmer, passing the newly created .hex file and any parameters you've specified.

    See Mecaniques web site. On the left hand side you can select to read about the Standard and Plus versions.

    /Henrik.

    But remember: For the bootloader (and that applies to all bootloader) you mist FIRST program the blank PIC with the actual bootloader. A bootloader is not a substitute for a proper device programmer.

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    Default Re: Mechanique Bootloader

    Robert, What do you mean by "Too bad that loader does not recognize the 18FxxKxx series PICs." It works with ALL the 18F & 16F series chips.
    Dave Purola,
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    Default Re: Mechanique Bootloader

    Supported Devices

    MicroCode Loader will program all of the following microcontrollers : 16F870, 16F871, 16F873(A), 16F874(A), 16F876(A) and 16F877(A) 16F870, 16F871, 16F873(A), 16F874(A), 16F876(A), 16F877(A), 16F87, 16F88, 18F242, 18F248, 18F252, 18F258, 18F442, 18F448, 18F452, 18F458, 18F1220, 18F1320, 18F2220, 18F2320, 18F4220, 18F4320, 18F6620, 18F6720, 18F8620, 18F8720, 18F2331, 18F2431, 18F4331, 18F4431, 18F6585, 18F8585, 18F6680, 18F8680, 18F6627, 18F6722, 18F8627, 18F8722, 18F2525, 18F2620, 18F4525, 18F4620, 18F2455, 18F2550, 18F4455, 18F4550, 18F2420, 18F2520, 18F4420, 18F4520, 18F2439, 18F2539, 18F4439, 18F4539, 18F2480, 18F2580, 18F4480, 18F4580, 18F2585, 18F2680, 18F4585, 18F4680, 18F6520, 18F8520, 18F6525, 18F6621, 18F8525 and 18F8621
    From here:
    https://www.mecanique.co.uk/shop/ind...&product_id=64
    Not as dumb as yesterday, but stupider than tomorrow!

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    Default Re: Mechanique Bootloader

    I think "ALL" 16F and 18F might be taking it slightly too far as the PIC still needs to be able to "self write" AND it needs to have an UART. But what Dave is aiming at is the UMC bootloader in Microcode studio. It provides the "framework" for you to create a bootloader .hex file for any device, there's no longer any need to rely on pre-built files.

    It's something I've yet to play around with but I see there are documentation available, always a good place to start.

    /Henrik.

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    Default Re: Mechanique Bootloader

    Henrik, what bootloader do you use?

    Robert
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    Default Re: Mechanique Bootloader

    I've gotten away with using the "normal" MicroCodeLoader and the stock Amicus/Proton loader on my Amicus18 boards. But after "upgrading" to Windows 10 the Amicus loader no longer works due to its non signed driver so I need to figure the UMC loader stuff out to get those going (or just use a PICKit3 (but it's a lot slower than bootloading).

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    Default Re: Mechanique Bootloader

    What if we buy Mechanique Microcode Loader for 11.95 pounds from Mechanique?

    Can we use the chips IT supports and crossreference that with what PICBasic Pro supports

    and the use THOSE chips?

    Will it even work with PICBasic Pro at all first of all?

    Thanks!

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