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  1. #1
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    Default MicroCodeStudioPlus keeps crashing.

    Hello I have PBP3 and MicroCode Studio Plus and MicroCode Studio keeps crashing. Is anyone else seeing this?
    Regards
    CharlieM
    Using PBP3
    MCSPX

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    Default Re: MicroCodeStudioPlus keeps crashing.

    Sure, several people have reported issues over the years but Melabs doesn't write that piece of software so they just point you to Mecanique who in turn claims they've never had such an issue and what they can't repeat they won't bother looking into. The general oppinion among those who HAVEN'T had a problem is that it's something specific with all the computers that DOES have a problem rather than with MCSP. Basically it sucks, big time. And proper integration into MPLABX is a mess without official and current documentation.

    See, this thread and this thread for starters. And please please report it to Melabs, you might even want to call it in on their support line since apparently no one has done that before.

    /Henrik.

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    Default Re: MicroCodeStudioPlus keeps crashing.

    Hello Henrik,

    Thanks for the info. I would think also that Charles would get involved as it is the IDE for his compiler. I will contact David and see what he says. Thanks.
    Regards
    CharlieM
    Using PBP3
    MCSPX

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    Default Re: MicroCodeStudioPlus keeps crashing.

    I too, have this issue intermittently (and extremely annoyingly). Part of the problem is reliable reproduction of the crash. I'm thinking it may have something to do with having 2 video processors on the Dell XPS laptop I've been using (one being NVIDIA), so am about to try another laptop to see if it resolves it. I'll let you know if I see any difference.

    If you find anything else out, please post it here.

    Thanks

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    Default Re: MicroCodeStudioPlus keeps crashing.

    Yeah, just spent an hour trying to help Bill in this thread and the bloody thing crashed 5 times during that period.
    I'm farily sure it does not crash if just left sitting there, it always seems to be when I'm typing.

    I'm starting to think it MIGHT have something to do with the serial terminal but I'm far from certain.

    /Henrik.

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    Default Re: MicroCodeStudioPlus keeps crashing.

    Anyone interested in FineLineIDE please PM me and I will provide a download link for the latest FineLineIDE BETA. FL is easy to trial as it can be simply cut copied, pasted or deleted as all FL files are contained within the directory of your choice. FL is also free as in free beer.

    Norm

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    Default Re: MicroCodeStudioPlus keeps crashing.

    Mine never crashes when "sitting idle", always when typing, most often when typing comments (?) maybe because I type a lot of them.

    Is anyone else who is experiencing this issue using a dual-video card machine? Mine has both "NVIDIA GeForce GT 550M" and "Intel HD Graphics Family" listed under Display adapters (Device Manager), running Win7/64 - DELL XPS L702X

    Any hardware similarities here that are shared by others with this cursed problem?

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    Default Re: MicroCodeStudioPlus keeps crashing.

    I did contact David about it and he indicated he would look into it. I have not herd any thing about.
    Regards
    CharlieM
    Using PBP3
    MCSPX

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    Default Re: MicroCodeStudioPlus keeps crashing.

    Had my first crash on another system after having used it for about 3 weeks... same old same old - ALWAYS seems to happen when typing in 'comments. I am beginning to wonder if it's related to the formatting properties that are set for comments, changing the color to green and the font to italics. Any ideas on that one? I know it's obscure but... it ALWAYS seems to happen while typing comments. I have now set to standard text for comments (NOT italics) to see if it makes a difference.
    Last edited by picster; - 6th March 2017 at 16:03.

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    Default Re: MicroCodeStudioPlus keeps crashing.

    im always about to purchase the PBP3, but i see it is not worth it as many people having a problem. Why the MicroStudio Plus is seperated than the PBP3 silver or gold?

    In case they fix the issue with all the crashes and i would like to give it a try, then i have to purchase both PBP3 Silver or Gold and the Microcode Studio plus?

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    Default Re: MicroCodeStudioPlus keeps crashing.

    To be clear: The problem has nothing to do with PBP3, it works fine and is Worth every cent IMHO.
    The problem is with MCSPX - which you don't HAVE to use (but it's damn handy when it doesn't crash). Why not start with using the free version of MicroCodeStudio and see if it works on your machine Before possibly upgrading to MCSPX?

    /Henrik.

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    Default Re: MicroCodeStudioPlus keeps crashing.

    It's far too early to be definitive, BUT since I changed the default font from italic to normal for 'comments, I have NOT witnessed a crash. Before that I noted that it seemed to always occur while I was typing comments/remarks, hence the font was being processed and changed on the fly accordingly. I'll advise if I see another crash.
    Last edited by picster; - 21st March 2017 at 11:44. Reason: clarification in wording

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    Default Re: MicroCodeStudioPlus keeps crashing.

    Quote Originally Posted by picster View Post
    It's far too early to be definitive, BUT since I changed the default font from italic to normal for 'comments, I have NOT witnessed a crash. Before that I noted that it seemed to always occur while I was typing comments/remarks, hence the font was being processed and changed on the fly accordingly. I'll advise if I see another crash.
    If others can try this too, to see if it works for them, it would help to determine if it's just one of those "lucky streaks" or not. Save often

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    Default Re: MicroCodeStudioPlus keeps crashing.

    I'll certainly give this a try when I'm coding PBP next time. Thanks!

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    Default Re: MicroCodeStudioPlus keeps crashing.

    first of all i would like to try the silver edition. But i would also like to try the microcode studio if it is fixed for crashing.

    Then, i realized that when i push on the silver version icon in case i would like to buy it (£76.40) : i get the following error.

    404 Error: File Not Found

    The requested file may no longer exist,
    or it may have been moved

    Please visit our site: www.crownhill.co.uk
    In this site i get a different price, including VAT goes up to: (£117.97 Inc. VAT) = 138.287099 EUR or 146.414091 USD. Not good, not good at all. This way makes plenty of people to look for an alternative method to have the PBP3 and Microcode Plus.

    Can anyone explain please?
    Last edited by astanapane; - 11th April 2017 at 08:42.

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    Default Re: MicroCodeStudioPlus keeps crashing.

    I can tell you that MCSPX is not "fixed" as there's been no new version for several years. If you're among the lucky ones where it doesn't crash - great. If you're among the ones where it does crash I'm at this point fairly sure you either going to have to live with it or find another IDE.

    I've just built myself a new computer, running Windows10, it's going to be interesting to see if it continues to act up.

    I don't quite understand what you mean regarding the pricing. Are you saying that you think it's expensive in general or are you saying that the price is different than on some other site? Where does it say £76.40?
    Buying directly from MeLabs is $119.95+VAT which puts in the same ballpark figuring 20-25% VAT.

    If you want free you can always use the Student edition, 9 supported PICs 12F, 16F and 18F families. Or you can look at the free version of Proton which supports 19 different PICs.

    /Henrik.

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    Default Re: MicroCodeStudioPlus keeps crashing.

    There is always the alternative of the FL IDE by Norm.

    Ioannis

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    Default Re: MicroCodeStudioPlus keeps crashing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ioannis View Post
    There is always the alternative of the FL IDE by Norm.

    Ioannis
    See v3.3 at FineLineIDE Wiki
    FineLineIDE is a one folder install (no registry entry's) so you can cut, copy or delete as you wish.
    FL saves a recovery file every 30 seconds and promptís to restore on restart if improper shutdown or crash.

    Also beta testers needed for 3.76
    Added line step which allows stepping back and forth through previous lines with out utilizing undo or redo.
    Now 10 programmer tabs in place of 5.
    Added capability to program from a hex file from any programmer tab.
    Added "My highlighter" for user specified highlighting of specific text for color, bold, italic and underline.
    Unicode now supported (non English text).
    FineLineIDE BETA v3.76 download
    Change .xyz extension to .exe

    Please discuss FL on the PicBasic FineLineIDE forum


    Norm
    Last edited by Normnet; - 11th April 2017 at 12:30.

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    Default Re: MicroCodeStudioPlus keeps crashing.

    Does it still crash if you run as administrator?
    Not as dumb as yesterday, but stupider than tomorrow!

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    Default Re: MicroCodeStudioPlus keeps crashing.

    Try turning off italics for comments... so far so good here.

  21. #21

    Default Re: MicroCodeStudioPlus keeps crashing.

    Crashes in admin mode or not... try turning off italics for remarks... that's my latest attempt in circumventing the problem.

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