LED Dimmer - What should be used for Switching?


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    I have been asked by someone to provide an LED Dimming circuit. Currently there are 21 LEDs @ 1Watt (12V) each. The LEDs currently are just being switched on or off. Since I have not done anything like this at such wattage before, I would like to request some help in deciding how to drive them.

    I am considering driving it using 16F877A. I will use HPWM output for this, but I would like to ask
    1. What frequency should be used?
    2. What should I use to drive the LEDs, a powerful Mosfet or something else is there in the market for this purpose?

    I will keep updating my questions here as I will go along. If mosfets can be used then I would like to ask which one is recommended. Searching the internet I found some mosfets which are capable of 60Amp to 80Amp. Will these be a wise choice? Will heatsink be required?
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    Default Re: LED Dimmer - What should be used for Switching?

    This link might give you some ideas.
    http://www.opensourcepartners.nl/~costar/leddimmer/

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    Default Re: LED Dimmer - What should be used for Switching?

    If it will be for one LED and low current, you may get away with a MosFet or similar.

    But for 21 LEDs, I think you should consider the power loss in heat.

    I am currently experimening with devices from ZMDI that are sold by MOUSER.

    I test the boost current regulator ZSLS7025 that I need to power 25 watt LED at 720mA and about 36 volt from a 12-24 volt dc input and with Dimming capability.

    This company makes such devices either for boost or buck. Have a look at this link:

    http://www.zmdi.com/products/led-drivers/

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    If you put them in series, it will make 21 LEDs x 12V = 252Volts, correct?

    If yes, and you are in Euro zone with 220VAC line, then convert 220VAC to DC, and drive them with a single mosfet only with 12F683 pwm output dimmed.

    You will get some heat due to voltage difference but "I think" it can be taken away from the mosfet with a small size cooler.
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    Default Re: LED Dimmer - What should be used for Switching?

    220x1,4=308Volt

    308-252=56Volt

    56volt*0.084mA=5Watts. This must be dissipated not on the mosfet only but on a resistor too. Otherwise LEDs may get overloaded.

    Not much, but not efficient either.

    Also there will be live part if this is of concern.

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    Default Re: LED Dimmer - What should be used for Switching?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ioannis View Post
    220x1,4=308Volt

    308-252=56Volt

    56volt*0.084mA=5Watts. This must be dissipated not on the mosfet only but on a resistor too. Otherwise LEDs may get overloaded.

    Not much, but not efficient either.

    Also there will be live part if this is of concern.

    Ioannis
    220VAC * 1.27 = 279.4 Volt DC

    279-252 = 27

    27 * 0.084 = 2.26 watts

    not bad with your approach.
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    Default Re: LED Dimmer - What should be used for Switching?

    Sayzer, what is the 1.27?

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    Default Re: LED Dimmer - What should be used for Switching?

    I know what it is but not sure if I can explain it correctly.


    May be, Alain can give a hand here and explain it in technical and understandable terms.

    You considered 308VDC using full bridge rectifier (and elec-cap), right?
    Have you actually measured it?
    Last edited by sayzer; - 24th September 2012 at 17:47. Reason: added cap.
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    Default Re: LED Dimmer - What should be used for Switching?

    So, I insist on sqr(2), meaning x1,41 of the rms voltage.

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    Default Re: LED Dimmer - What should be used for Switching?

    ok.

    First, we multiply AC voltage by 0.9.
    then, we multiply the result by 1.41.

    There, you have the result for DC voltage.

    In our case here,
    we muliply 220VAC by 0.9 = 198
    then we multiply 198 by 1.41 = 279VDC.

    This calculation is for full bridge rectifier with an elec-cap.
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    Default Re: LED Dimmer - What should be used for Switching?

    Quote Originally Posted by sayzer View Post
    First, we multiply AC voltage by 0.9.
    Why?? .....
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