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    Default I/O pin default low.

    How do I set an output digital pin low by default?

    16f15324 - pin PORTA.4
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    this will do it
    Code:
    ansela = ~ 16
    lata     = ~ 16
    trisa    = ~ 16
    but i doubt its the actual problem, i suspect you are most likely driving the mosfet improperly
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    Electronically I am driving it correctly.. its actually only driving an npn transistor..

    Somehow my program is restarting when I introduce an input.
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    Quote Originally Posted by richard View Post
    this will do it
    Code:
    ansela = ~ 16
    lata     = ~ 16
    trisa    = ~ 16
    but i doubt its the actual problem, i suspect you are most likely driving the mosfet improperly

    you are correct - with transistor out, it works - the transistor turns on the fet which has a load. With no load the code works - with load the program resets because the PIC output pin cant drive it on startup. Once its on and a load is then applied it works...

    So I guess the question is how do I get the PIC to work with load already on.
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    Default Re: I/O pin default low.

    So I guess the question is how do I get the PIC to work with load already on.

    provide more detail and a schematic to begin with
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    Default Re: I/O pin default low.

    that's a fairly standard sort of high-side switch that I would expect to be ok.

    given that pic i/p leakage current is typically 100nA~ish MAX either R4 is not what is depicted
    or your code is not as described [bootloader maybe].
    you could try a smaller R4

    Thats about all i can see


    Somehow my program is restarting when I introduce an input.
    is a different story, a big heavy load needs a good power supply and adequate filtering
    together with a proper layout to prevent noise affecting the logic circuits
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    Hi,

    Please ...

    - provide your full config section ( ports config included )
    - provide your full schematics ( Pic + Supply + Power sections )

    No way to give you a decent answer without those infos ...

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    Default Re: I/O pin default low.

    I'll give more infor in a bit - but my guess while sleeping is filtering - I need a few caps on inputs and output - which are next to the reset pin. I'll try that tonight. - and maybe a larger one on the PIC itself.

    I'll provide a better schematic and my code for ports etc later today.. I'm sure my code is different than what the good programmers use. I didnt use LAT for example - just ports.


    thanks ahead of time...
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    ok - no insults please... - if someone wants to clean my code up for $ I'm all ears... - seriously...

    16f15324PIC-SCHEM.pdf

    schematic says it s 16f616 - its not - its a 16f15324 ********************

    #CONFIG
    __config _CONFIG1, _FEXTOSC_OFF & _RSTOSC_HFINT32 & _CLKOUTEN_OFF & _CSWEN_ON & _FCMEN_OFF
    __config _CONFIG2, _MCLRE_ON & _PWRTE_ON & _LPBOREN_OFF & _BOREN_ON & _BORV_LO & _ZCD_OFF & _PPS1WAY_OFF & _STVREN_ON
    __config _CONFIG3, _WDTCPS_WDTCPS_11 & _WDTE_ON & _WDTCWS_WDTCWS_6 & _WDTCCS_SC
    __config _CONFIG4, _BBSIZE_BB512 & _BBEN_OFF & _SAFEN_OFF & _WRTAPP_OFF & _WRTB_OFF & _WRTC_OFF & _WRTSAF_OFF & _LVP_OFF
    __config _CONFIG5, _CP_ON
    #ENDCONFIG


    OSCCON1=%00000011
    OSCCON2=%00000011
    INLVLA = %11111
    INLVLC = %1111111
    TRISC = %11111111


    DEFINE OSC 4
    OSCFRQ_4MHZ

    ANSELA = PORTA.2
    ANSELC = %00000

    OUTPUT PORTA.1 ' FAULT LED
    OUTPUT PORTA.0 ' TIMING LED
    OUTPUT PORTA.4 ' FET
    INPUT PORTA.5 ' IGNITION
    INPUT PORTC.5 ' V UNDER TRIP POINT - 11 OR 11.75
    input PORTC.4 ' CHOICE BIT OF HOW THIS TURNS ON


    SW1 - SW6 are inputs
    green and red - outputs to leds
    "Battery sense" is an analog in
    "I sense" is a 12V in (broken down to <5v)
    FET - output


    whats happeing is when IG comes on the program resets when there is a load on FET - with no load it works. (I'm trying more filtering on IG AND FET output and make sure C3 is .1)

    btw - insult it all you want...

    Again - I'm all ears on someone helping me - lmk I'll giv emy email and set it up.
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    Top secret electronic ignition ??? ....
    MC3334P clone ?

    - ADC inputs have a maximum input feed impedance to respond as fast as required ... see Pic datasheet for details.

    so, I presume @ first sight your current detection is wayyyy too slow, and your coil enters saturation ...

    add to that your IPB protection is wayyy too weak and slow !!! be prepared for in-use failures, after some running time.

    Now, automotive circuits need lots of filtering to avoid pic supply surges ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acetronics2 View Post
    Top secret electronic ignition ??? ....
    MC3334P clone ?

    - ADC inputs have a maximum input feed impedance to respond as fast as required ... see Pic datasheet for details.

    so, I presume @ first sight your current detection is wayyyy too slow, and your coil enters saturation ...

    add to that your IPB protection is wayyy too weak and slow !!! be prepared for in-use failures, after some running time.

    Now, automotive circuits need lots of filtering to avoid pic supply surges ...

    Alain

    No current detection - just if IG is on (12V) and monitors battery voltage - this all working for past 5 years. Discovered the issue of no load it starts right up - with load it resets program. In other words I can turn it on with Ignition and then apply load - works. But I can tell the program gets reset because I put a turn on/off red led before the main and it comes on when IG is applied. I'll try caps later tonight on signals.

    I also do not think code is correct setting up registers. Thats what I want help on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acetronics2 View Post
    Top secret electronic ignition ??? ....
    MC3334P clone ?

    - ADC inputs have a maximum input feed impedance to respond as fast as required ... see Pic datasheet for details.

    so, I presume @ first sight your current detection is wayyyy too slow, and your coil enters saturation ...

    add to that your IPB protection is wayyy too weak and slow !!! be prepared for in-use failures, after some running time.

    Now, automotive circuits need lots of filtering to avoid pic supply surges ...

    Alain

    no - not a clone of MC3334P - it just turns on a load if IG is present.
    by the time I get the IG signal its been filtered.

    What coil?

    IPB?
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    Default Re: I/O pin default low.

    Your ANSELA statement is incorrect... you don't set it that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tumbleweed View Post
    Your ANSELA statement is incorrect... you don't set it that way.

    ok - please elaborate..
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    ANSELA is an 8-bit register... you set it just like any register, 0-255

    If you want RA2 to be analog but all others digital then ANSELA = %00000100

    You have something very different... ANSELA = PORTA.2, which will read the value of the port pin and assign it to ANSELA (whatever that results in).

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