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heh well hopefully in the future I will reach the engineer status (going to college right now), I can't belive you mainly becuase currently its my main hobby.

I take a more optimistic look at the...

So beyond trying to depress everyone what exactly is the point of your post?

Complaining, bickering and bringing everyone down certainly doesn't help.....

Actually I disagree - Its true most DIP/through hole stuff will be gone in 10-15 years but SMD will be around for a good while longer. Most of the stores you can walk into will no longer sell parts...

Hey, I actually asked this question a while back but it was dealing with PWM - If you do a search on PWM my post should come up. Mister E and Skimask both helped me out on it -

I actually got it...

Thanks again for all the help, the parts will get to my house next week - I will let you know how it goes.

Well here is the data sheet to the LEDs-

http://www.jameco.com/Jameco/Products/ProdDS/106526.pdf

It says the forward voltage drop is usually 1.2V so I should be able to drive two in series...

Thanks for all the help - I will look into doing it with PWM - The crystal I plan on using is 20MHZ (just to make sure - the crystals decoupling? caps should be around 22pf right?)

One other thing...

Hello - I had a quick question and I was wondering if anyone would be able to help me out -

Is there a way to generate a 38Khz square wave on any of the 16F877A pins? I am a bit confused...